Kansas Counties With Mask Mandate Show Steep COVID-19 Drop!

[tundraboomer]

Since the freakers here always like to remind everyone that correlation is not causation and that RCTs are all that matter, I'd like to remind the OP of the same thing. The entire article is based on observation. Useless.

[therealnickb]

Indoors with limited air circulation, a very decent chance if you're talking, and especially if you're yelling or screaming! The virus is expelled via talking, yelling, singing, or screaming as aerosols. This is why Bars and Churches are dangerous, and why live music is dead for the foreseeable future.

Droplets and Aerosols in the Transmission of SARS-CoV-2



Matthew Meselson, Ph.D.
Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

[therealnickb]

The "asymptomatic carrier" or "pre-sysptomatic carrier" is indeed fact and a somewhat unique aspect of this unique corona virus (NOT In-FLU-enza etc), and likely responsible for nearly half of the community transmission.

Look, I don't wear the N95 very often at all (just visiting the elderly or other high at risk people etc), and when I do "IT'S PRIMARILY FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S SAFETY", which also requires me not getting it and spreading it!

The fact is I too hardly wear a mask as I also avoid crowds, and spend most of my out of the house time training German Shepherds in the woods with a couple of people at most, carefully distanced outdoors etc.

That said, when UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE or INDOORS IN PUBLIC I do mask-up without whining about "muh freedum", and I do it for OTHER PEOPLE as well as myself to reduce community spread (simple!).

Singing, Yelling, and Screaming isn't a "SF thing" LOL, though it's quite popular in Bars, Churches, and Concerts etc, which is why they're still restricted.

Regarding restaurants, assuming there's ample air circulation indoors or seating is outdoors, and the tables are spaced accordingly that's fine (i.e. "as good as it gets").

What in the heck are you arguing about anyways as it sounds as if you're doing the same thing as I am?

You know dogs can get it right? Better put your mask back on.

[DJD100]

You know dogs can get it right? Better put your mask back on.

Luckily there's no transmission from dogs to humans, just dogs shedding dead virus remnants in their stool (not sure about cats?).

The US German Shepherd that died and tested positive for COVID-19 had cancer, and it's the cancer that killed that poor dog at only seven years old.

Dogs can get it though their immune systems kill it, but they can't transmit it to humans unless someone slathers virus on their fur in a high concentration, and then a human immediately touches the dog and wipes his mouth and eyes before the dog's fur desiccates the virus (so far anyways...).

[therealnickb]

Luckily there's no transmission from dogs to humans, just dogs shedding dead virus remnants in their stool (not sure about cats?).

The US German Shepherd that died and tested positive for COVID-19 had cancer, and it's the cancer that killed that poor dog at only seven years old.

Dogs can get it though their immune systems kill it, but they can't transmit it to humans unless someone slathers virus on their fur in a high concentration, and then a human immediately touches the dog and wipes his mouth and eyes before the dog's fur desiccates the virus (so far anyways...).

Sounds risky! Better safe than sorry.

[SAN compnerd]

Except it was all a lie.

Top state official caught using 'doctored' chart, data to push face mask mandate

Kansas Department of Health and Environment Secretary Lee Norman presented a coronavirus case chart to the media last week to contrast Kansas counties abiding by Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly's mask mandate and those that have not, The Sentinel reported.

Norman claimed that counties abiding by the mandate are "winning the battle," suggesting that counties that have not followed the mandate are losing.

"All of the improvement in the case development comes from those counties wearing masks," Norman said, The Sentinel reported.

However, Norman's claim only appeared true because he manipulated his chart to create the illusion that counties following the mask mandate are successfully warding off coronavirus.

Norman used an axis with a range of 15 to 25 to describe the number of new cases in masked counties and used a range of 4 to 14 to describe the number of new cases in counties without a mask mandate, making it appear as though counties without a mask mandate had more cases. When the two sets of data are placed on a chart with the same axis, counties without a mask mandate have fewer new cases per day than counties with a mask mandate.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/top-state-official-caught-using-doctored-chart-data-to-push-face-mask-mandate

[ibanezfoo]

Except it was all a lie.

Top state official caught using 'doctored' chart, data to push face mask mandate

https://www.theblaze.com/news/top-st...e-mask-mandate

LOL

How about that now OP?

[comblock]

masks: the proper use

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5001137836579201&id=100000491011300&set=a.4985659834793668

[Den60]

And the Double Blind Randomized Control Study that supports this mask theory?

^^^ Beat me to it.

[Den60]

well they have a little over 1/3rd our population at 130million people and yet only 1042 deaths compared to our 163,000, so..

yeah, I'd say the masks helped.

the anger in japan isn't that their government completely screwed up and continued screwing up like ours is, the anger is that they had something like single digit deaths a day for a good while - until the govt decided to forcefully advocate for a return to "normalcy".

They also rank as among the healthiest populations in the world with low rates of cardiovascular disease and diabetes, the latter roughly half that of the US.

[balgor]

And the Double Blind Randomized Control Study that supports this mask theory?

One of you geniuses explain to me how you would blind a mask study?

[Kestryll]

EVERYONE should MASK-UP WHEN IN PUBLIC AND UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE, especially INDOORS (unless you're a very young child or have a medical condition that prohibits it), because a decent percentage of people don't show symptoms but are still extremely contagious.

Paranoid much?

Gotta admit, this made me laugh for real.

[Kestryll]

One of you geniuses explain to me how you would blind a mask study?

Cover the eye holes in the mask.

[gimebakmybulits]

The "asymptomatic carrier" or "pre-sysptomatic carrier" is indeed fact and a somewhat unique aspect of this unique corona virus (NOT In-FLU-enza etc), and likely responsible for nearly half of the community transmission.

Look, I don't wear the N95 very often at all (just visiting the elderly or other high at risk people etc), and when I do "IT'S PRIMARILY FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S SAFETY", which also requires me not getting it and spreading it!

The fact is I too hardly wear a mask as I also avoid crowds, and spend most of my out of the house time training German Shepherds in the woods with a couple of people at most, carefully distanced outdoors etc.

That said, when UNABLE TO SOCIALLY DISTANCE or INDOORS IN PUBLIC I do mask-up without whining about "muh freedum", and I do it for OTHER PEOPLE as well as myself to reduce community spread (simple!).

Singing, Yelling, and Screaming isn't a "SF thing" LOL, though it's quite popular in Bars, Churches, and Concerts etc, which is why they're still restricted.

Regarding restaurants, assuming there's ample air circulation indoors or seating is outdoors, and the tables are spaced accordingly that's fine (i.e. "as good as it gets").

What in the heck are you arguing about anyways as it sounds as if you're doing the same thing as I am?

So are you for or against mandating use of masks during influenza season?

[kcheung2]

I believe these numbers are being manipulated to fit the story and control the populace.

Since they have an area with mandatory mask use, why not start reporting less new cases in that area. Media runs with the story and local governments use the "data" to reinforce stronger mask mandates for their kingdom area.

Paranoid much?

Get the tin-foil hat back on, and by all means take your meds!

Bagman may or may not be paranoid, but he's right.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/top-state-official-caught-using-doctored-chart-data-to-push-face-mask-mandate

https://www.ksnt.com/news/local-news/kansas-policy-institue-ceo-criticizes-dr-lee-norman-for-deceptive-map/