Virus undercounted

[SW1917]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html

The other side of the coin - we will not know the TRUE count until studies come out a year or more from the start -

[balgor]

Anyone who takes an objective look at the excess death numbers worldwide can only reach one conclusion, covid deaths are under counted.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries

[duenor]

Probably. All these excess deaths aren't coming from delayed medical care. Medical self neglect is dangerous but the harm is stretched out over years. This kind of a sharp increase in deaths is usually attributed to natural disasters or wars.

The June numbers will be telling, especially for the United States.

[SW1917]

And given that auto accidents should be down during the SIP - increased numbers become more unusual.

[calif 15-22]

I’m not going back and updating my daily counts for the newly discovered “undercounts. Lol

[toro1]

And given that auto accidents should be down during the SIP - increased numbers become more unusual.

Can you provide the numbers for this?

I have been watching the CDC excess death numbers for months now and with the exception of NY, Mich, NJ, and a few others that data does not support your original post.

[SW1917]

Can you provide the numbers for this?

I have been watching the CDC excess death numbers for months now and with the exception of NY, Mich, NJ, and a few others that data does not support your original post.

Thats why I used the term "SHOULD" If I had exact #s I would have made a definitive statement -understand?

[SW1917]

You have something to look forward to NEXT YEAR. lol

[Scota4570]

Counting cases is now a convoluted mess. They are now greating inflating counts. See the links in post #14. http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1626129

Oh, please do not hold up "The Economist" as a reliable source of information. It is owned in part by the Rothschild family.

[balgor]

Counting cases is not a convoluted mess. They are now greating inflating counts. See the links in post #14. http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1626129

Oh, please do not hold up "The Economist" as a reliable source of information. It is owned in part by the Rothschild family.

Keep believing whatever you want, your 15X probable to actual laboratory confirmed cases supposition has zero evidence supporting it.

Here's Ohio:

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/home

49,293 Laboratory confirmed cases, 3,602 probable cases.

Where is your 15X overreport coming from?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-wants-states-to-count-probable-coronavirus-cases-and-deaths-but-most-arent-doing-it/2020/06/07/4aac9a58-9d0a-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html

Fewer than half the states are following federal recommendations to report probable novel coronavirus cases and deaths, marking what experts say is an unusual break with public health practices that leads to inconsistent data collection and undercounts of the disease’s impact.

The Economist is a publication that has one of least slanted and the highest degree of factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-economist/ It's why I subscribe.

[SW1917]

Counting cases is not a convoluted mess. They are now greating inflating counts. See the links in post #14. http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1626129

Oh, please do not hold up "The Economist" as a reliable source of information. It is owned in part by the Rothschild family.

Believe what you want to feed your biases -

[Gavelek]

Why all newbies to calguns are so obsessed with covid?

[toro1]

Thats why I used the term "SHOULD" If I had exact #s I would have made a definitive statement -understand?

You've just said the same thing numerous times so I was hoping you had a source for it as well as numbers for industrial accidents, suicides etc. It would help put this particular subject to rest if you did.

[toro1]

Thats why I used the term "SHOULD" If I had exact #s I would have made a definitive statement -understand?

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/04/09/traffic-deaths-spike-in-minnesota-despite-low-vehicle-volume

The director of the Office of Traffic Safety, Mike Hanson, said that since Gov. Tim Walz issued the stay-at-home order, traffic fatalities in Minnesota have increased about 50 percent and that's at a time that traffic is down roughly 50 percent.

[SW1917]

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/0...vehicle-volume

Interesting - driving less (50%) but more fatalities - did you find the numbers for all accidents. Logic would say if fewer drivers on the road =fewer accidents, guess bad drivers are the ones still driving.