Covid deaths plummet

[sd_shooter]

If deaths are in fact "plummeting," that's excellent news.

We agree!!!

So the lockdown must have worked then?

Let's have a lockdown every year, it was so beneficial. Only added 3 Trillion to the debt - party on! Totally worth it.

Or, perhaps, it has already killed most who were the most likely to die from it.

Just like the Flu does - every single year.

Worked in NY, didn't it? Oh wait. No, it didn't.

Let's not forget to thank the CDC for that brilliant piece of advice: stuff the sick into nursing homes, they'll know what do to. (At least they have weekly deliveries of caskets, so in a sense they're prepared.)

3 states in which the 7 day moving average of positive cases is at all time highs and rising..

California
North Carolina
Texas

Must have been that nationwide snow storm I guess

Remember, (cases == runny noses), (cases /= deaths) It's ok to catch a cold, eventually we all do.

[smashycrashy]

Remember, (cases == runny noses), (cases /= deaths) It's ok to catch a cold, eventually we all do.

So we've moved off of the Illuminati claiming that we don't need testing (Feb/Mar timeline) or we can't test the US it is too big (Feb/March), to it won't be a big deal (Mar/Apr), to of course we have more cases we have more testing (Mar, Apr, May, June), to it'll go away in the Summer/heat (Mar, Apr, May), etc, etc

Don't know what ya'll are claiming today.. but I am just saying you don't have a great track record.

FYI, Texas 7 day moving average on testing peaked a bit ago so can't say your new cases are because of that.

[SanDiego619]

So we've moved off of the Illuminati claiming that we don't need testing (Feb/Mar timeline) or we can't test the US it is too big (Feb/March), to it won't be a big deal (Mar/Apr), to of course we have more cases we have more testing (Mar, Apr, May, June), to it'll go away in the Summer/heat (Mar, Apr, May), etc, etc

Don't know what ya'll are claiming today.. but I am just saying you don't have a great track record.

FYI, Texas 7 day moving average on testing peaked a bit ago so can't say your new cases are because of that.

My overriding claim is that the shutdown was not worth it. The damage it caused was not worth it.

[cleonard]

Apparently Antifa and BLM intimidated covid into surrendering.

According to the CDC, the total flu and covid deaths are almost at the baseline level. The virus has all but quit in Italy. They have determined that it mutated into a less deadly strain. That is what normally happens with flu. It appears to be so here too.

Pages 7 and 12 of 47 are of particular interest

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...05-29-2020.pdf

The data there is like two weeks old. The more recent data shows California growing slightly and Texas growing as well.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/california

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states/texas

[newbutold]

Did the shutdown save a 100,000 lives?

[DJD100]

Did the shutdown save a 100,000 lives?

Most likely IMO as Sweden's death rate is roughly twice the US's, plus the fact that Swedes on average are smarter and better at social distancing and mask wearing than some moronic Americans who can't or won't understand the details.

Of course keep in mind that SARS CoV-19 isn't going anywhere and the numbers will continue to climb, with the only variable being at what rate, and whether that rate overwhelms the US Health Care System (i.e. the whole reason for the shutdown in the first place!).

United States as of today :

Confirmed
1.91M
+19,699 today

Deaths
110K
+1,004 today


Sweden:

Confirmed
41,883

Deaths
4,562


Worldwide as of today:

Confirmed
6.42M
+93,238 today

Deaths
383K
+3,621 today

[SanDiego619]

Most likely IMO as Sweden's death rate is roughly twice the US's, plus the fact that Swedes on average are smarter and better at social distancing and mask wearing than some moronic Americans who can't or won't understand the details.

Of course keep in mind that SARS CoV-19 isn't going anywhere and the numbers will continue to climb, with the only variable being at what rate, and whether that rate overwhelms the US Health Care System (i.e. the whole reason for the shutdown in the first place!).

United States as of today :

Confirmed
1.91M
+19,699 today

Deaths
110K
+1,004 today


Sweden:

Confirmed
41,883

Deaths
4,562


Worldwide as of today:

Confirmed
6.42M
+93,238 today

Deaths
383K
+3,621 today

No one is smarter than Americans. Sweden has destroyed their country by opening their borders and letting cultural Marxism take over. You should move there if you think it's so much better.

[five.five-six]

See how that works?

Stay home because of COVID morphs into riot curfews. Government has folks where they want them. Next up will be stay at home due to voting riots...the Dems to declare that all ballots must be cast at home to be gathered and delivered by the honorable members of BLM.

Up next:

[CAL.BAR]

The jig is up, the virus isn't as bad as they said. Let's see if our test guineapig rioters caused a spike. I'll bet not.

The 100,000 Americans who died and the families of those who died MIGHT disagree with your "opinion".

[CAL.BAR]

Deaths are plummeting.

Can't dispute it.

Quite right. However, you also have to understand that the REASON they are plummeting is because we LOCKED DOWN! Now, you also have to understand that the infection and death data lags the real world by 2-4 week (incubation plus infection time). Now that were are opening again, we need to look at the numbers 2-4 weeks from now and see how we are doing.

If the numbers continue to plummet - great! The lockdown worked.
If the numbers skyrocket - um..... opening may not have been a good idea. Time will tell.

[tuna quesadilla]

Quite right. However, you also have to understand that the REASON they are plummeting is because we LOCKED DOWN! Now, you also have to understand that the infection and death data lags the real world by 2-4 week (incubation plus infection time). Now that were are opening again, we need to look at the numbers 2-4 weeks from now and see how we are doing.

If the numbers continue to plummet - great! The lockdown worked.
If the numbers skyrocket - um..... opening may not have been a good idea. Time will tell.

[ACfixer]

If the numbers continue to plummet - great! The lockdown worked.
If the numbers skyrocket - um..... opening may not have been a good idea. Time will tell.

Yeah, tho only possible answers to the results are that your liberal views are correct either way. You are truly a piece of work.

How about this, the numbers continue to plummet and it could only mean the lockdowns were horsecrap. The virus is still as contagious as it ever was, so if the lockdowns worked, then the opening back up would have to be a disaster.

But feel free to hide under the bed and post your incessant BS, the men will let you know when it's safe to come out. If it turns out you are right, then men will catch the Wu Man Flu and develop the immunity. You can let someone else will fight your battle either way.

[SanDiego619]

Quite right. However, you also have to understand that the REASON they are plummeting is because we LOCKED DOWN! Now, you also have to understand that the infection and death data lags the real world by 2-4 week (incubation plus infection time). Now that were are opening again, we need to look at the numbers 2-4 weeks from now and see how we are doing.

If the numbers continue to plummet - great! The lockdown worked.
If the numbers skyrocket - um..... opening may not have been a good idea. Time will tell.

What if there is no spike and deaths continue to plummet even after the massive extreme opposite of social distancing we saw with the riots? Then will you allow the possibility that social distancing and such was not necessary?

[tuna quesadilla]

Yeah, tho only possible answers to the results are that your liberal views

Whoa, stop right there.

How in the world did epidemiology and human biology become a political topic for you?

Have you considered taking a step back and assessing that not everything in this world needs to have a political label slapped on it?

Have you considered that maybe your aggressive "politicize everything" attitude is contributing to the very divisiveness that you're lamenting here?

We're talking about 110,000 dead Americans here and you're trying to make this a joke about liberals and conservatives? A hundred and ten thousand dead Americans. In three months.

You're out of your mind.

[tuna quesadilla]

What if there is no spike and deaths continue to plummet even after the massive extreme opposite of social distancing we saw with the riots? Then will you allow the possibility that social distancing and such was not necessary?

Hey, the death rate plummeting would be a fantastic thing! We're up to 110,000 of our countrymen dead, because some dude in China decided to eat a bat.

Nobody can truly know right now whether or not social distancing was the right move. We don't know enough about the virus yet. We'll likely learn in the coming months and years whether the recent "flattening of the curve" was due to our social distancing measures, or if it was just an inevitable outcome anyways.

Anyone who claims to know the answer to that question on either side is pushing a political agenda and is not to be trusted.