More evidence that it's a SCAMDEMIC

[SanDiego619]

We get it, interpret data sets isolated and/or ambiguous enough to be hand-waved into your narrative. Toss out numbers that can't be logically applied the way you need them applied. Don't err on the side of caution in the face of a new virus which has the most obvious features of something which could be dangerous. Be unafraid. So unafraid. Because any sort of admission there may be a threat to manage would be cowering or boot licking or whatever

At first some caution was wise, but not two months later when we know the virus has the same mortality rate as the flu and that it really only affects people who would also be affected by the flu.

We know that it is not very bad, it is like the flu, and it is not worth destroying our economy over. The disaster ahead of us is far worse than the virus. Even if our hospitals were overwhelmed and people died, the long term damage would not be as bad as what we are facing because of the economic shutdown.

It is not worth it. Why are we destroying the economy over the flu?

[u04601]

I don't think it is a Nothing Burger that 2000+ people have died in a day. Me, and many people like me don't feel that this "pandemic" rises to any level close to calling for shutting down the economic engines of the world or calling for Stay At Home orders for 75% of the population. The government should not be picking winners and losers.

[SanDiego619]

I don't think it is a Nothing Burger that 2000+ people have died in a day. Me, and many people like me don't feel that this "pandemic" rises to any level close to calling for shutting down the economic engines of the world or calling for Stay At Home orders for 75% of the population. The government should not be picking winners and losers.

Oh, it's not a nothing burger, but if those same 2000 people got the flu, they would probably have also died. Most of the people who died were in nursing homes or elderly or had other medical problems. Yes, there were a few outliers where young seemingly healthy people died when they got the virus, but those cases are few and far between. And I don't count the young healthy guy who died of a drug overdose, who also happened to have COVID.

[The War Wagon]

Funeral Director?!?!?! Pffffffffft...

We need an EXPERT OPINION on dead people!!!

[snapsound]

At first some caution was wise, but not two months later when we know the virus has the same mortality rate as the flu and that it really only affects people who would also be affected by the flu.

We know that it is not very bad, it is like the flu, and it is not worth destroying our economy over. The disaster ahead of us is far worse than the virus. Even if our hospitals were overwhelmed and people died, the long term damage would not be as bad as what we are facing because of the economic shutdown.

It is not worth it. Why are we destroying the economy over the flu?

Sure if that were the story.

But it is not like the flu. You are handpicking data and hand waving it to make it support that idea. But the data doesn't support that overall. Obviously.

It should be really easy for anyone to check up on how you came to that conclusion. But the data you post always has ambiguity or requires some sort of assumed things to make it just-like-the-flu. It almost sometimes like your argument is "Its just like the flu because they are trying to get Trump!"

If it was just-like-the-flu then NY, Italy, Spain, etc..would not have seen anything unusual happen. They did. So its not. At the most basic level, thats an indicator its different. Quite easy to extend that to isolated populations where data was taken from everyone and mortality rates could be determined. Town of Vo in Italy, cruise ship, etc.. What about China? Are you saying China data is good and it petered out? So you trust China and also Trump?

I support Trump and I think there are people taking advantage of this, and I think the mitigations could be reduced using careful strategies. But I don't think this is just like the flu. The data for that does not exist and that is contrary to obvious indicators.

[SanDiego619]

Sure if that were the story.

But it is not like the flu. You are handpicking data and hand waving it to make it support that idea. But the data doesn't support that overall. Obviously.

It should be really easy for anyone to check up on how you came to that conclusion. But the data you post always has ambiguity or requires some sort of assumed things to make it just-like-the-flu. It almost sometimes like your argument is "Its just like the flu because they are trying to get Trump!"

If it was just-like-the-flu then NY, Italy, Spain, etc..would not have seen anything unusual happen. They did. So its not. At the most basic level, thats an indicator its different. Quite easy to extend that to isolated populations where data was taken from everyone and mortality rates could be determined. Town of Vo in Italy, cruise ship, etc.. What about China? Are you saying China data is good and it petered out? So you trust China and also Trump?

I support Trump and I think there are people taking advantage of this, and I think the mitigations could be reduced using careful strategies. But I don't think this is just like the flu. The data for that does not exist and that is contrary to obvious indicators.

Even if it is worse than the flu it was not bad enough to shut down the economy. It's not Ebola, it's not gonna kill everyone.

[ACfixer]

If you intend to troll the forum with gibberish and nonsense perhaps you should just go to off topic, this isn't the place for that.

"Do as I say and not as I do" eh?

[SanDiego619]

"Do as I say and not as I do" eh?

Everything Freakers and those suffering from TDS say is retarded gibberish.

[TTT]

Uh huh..

Whenever its...[gibberish and nonsense redacted]...feel better.

[SanDiego619]

Well said. I wish I said it myself. Instead, I can only give it a "HELL YEAH!!"

[ACfixer]

Fear drives you to try to control others- exactly what Freakers do.

Yep, perfectly stated.

[cleonard]

Absent a vaccine or a treatment that works, all this social distancing does little to decrease the final death total. All it does is spread it out over a longer time.

We were only trying to stop the hospitals from being overrun. We have accomplished that goal. We can now start opening

So far no silver bullet treatments have been found. We may have a few that work, but more time is needed to prove it one way or the other. If we get a treatment, time to open more aggressively.

One thing we do know is who this virus mainly kills. It's not those that are the main part of the productive side of the economy.

As states take different paths, we will see how the strategies work.

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[ACfixer]

Absent a vaccine or a treatment that works, all this social distancing does little to decrease the final death total. All it does is spread it out over a longer time.

We were only trying to stop the hospitals from being overrun. We have accomplished that goal. We can now start opening

Somehow, someone will argue with this and we know who. It's so freaking predictable.