Newsom Conference April 14th

[LBDamned]

He brought up the app, but I noticed he was careful not to say people will have to use it.

Yeah I'm not sure how they would enforce app use. In China I saw people have to use their phones camera to scan a barcode on the side of buses before they can board.

I'm not seeing that here.

Just three weeks ago people said that about SIP.

People are sheep, they will use it.

[LBDamned]

Then u won't know if you were exposed to an infected during their contagious phase. You'll end up infecting others and some will die.

Is your temporary inconvenience more valuable than the lives you'll take?

I hope this is sarcasm. Because if not, its utter bullchit.

[LBDamned]

shocking people are willing to give up rights for security. you may as well turn in your guns also.

They will.

[Doheny]

[LBDamned]

You have a SSN, they track your paycheck, they know your address. You have a driver's license with your picture on it. Your bank and Cc company track your finances and report suspicious activities to the government. You use the internet and your search history is stored by your ISP. Facebook tracks your web activity even if you don't have an account.

Police scan licenses plates as they drive by and check against a database...

Do you think you aren't already being tracked. Watched for criminal activity and advertising? You participate in this system. You have freedom of choice and could move off grid but you don't. You tolerate it.

But you wouldn't tolerate an app that could save lives and allow everyone to get back to work? You'd be willing to sacrifice your elderly relatives and the American economy because you don't want to use an app?

Or Maybe you don't use a phone, use the internet, pay taxes, don't have a bank account, and don't drive? Maybe you're truly free? Or maybe you live with the illusion of privacy and freedom like everyone else.

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There are cameras all over society... strap one to your forehead, facing you - fulltime... Its no biggie, you're being watched all the time anyway.

[LBDamned]

my pet is property, she has no civil rights.

I'm almost positive those were the exact words Newsom said about you.

[Sousuke]

I'm not disagreeing with you per say, but I think while California took leadership early on, I think we may be left in the dust by other states that roll out more testing, more aggressive opening policies etc.

[Sousuke]

It looks like ICU numbers were steady again yesterday with a slight tick up in hospital rates.

I read that the average survivor is in the ICU for 14 days, so we may not see ICU ticking down until after the weekend...

I'm watching these closely because are the only concrete factor given by the state for starting to reopen.

[zhyla]

I'm glad they're at least starting plans for opening back up.

[SAN compnerd]

Newsom has actually been presenting 1 June for awhile now. (There's a reason I included the date in my poll about a week ago.)

The six criteria he laid out for re-opening is fodder for conspiracy theory, laughs, or concern, depending on how an individual leans...

For those dismissing "being tracked" as already happening, be aware that there is a difference between "being able to be tracked" and actively "being tracked." It's similar to resisting GPS trackers in cars so that the State can assess a 'mileage tax.' If the Government is actively tracking your movements, what might that lead to?

Also bear in mind that not 'everyone' carries a cellphone or smartphone. Not 'everyone' has a GPS tracker in their vehicle. Not 'everyone' lives in a city with cameras on every corner. What Thee or me might 'accept' as the norm isn't necessarily a 'norm' for many or even most.

Such also begs the question of HOW they intend to track people. Conspiracy theorists are already pushing the idea that Bill Gates has nano-technology which will fit within a human cell and wants to use vaccines to distribute them to everyone. On a more pragmatic level, Google and Apple are pushing 'contact tracing' via phones that 'everyone' will be carrying; software that, conveniently, they were able to (ahem) 'quickly develop.' While that has also led to some conspiracy theories, there are some legitimate questions which arise as well.

Some of those six criteria also sound suspiciously like a Progressive agenda... Protecting 'vulnerable' populations, control over 'child care,' increasing Government's ability to control things at a "moment's notice." Insofar as "therapeutics," that's more about siphoning money to research entities which favor Progressive agenda in that we already have drug testing underway; some of which have demonstrated, even scientifically (not just anecdotally), a certain level of success. How much more 'research and development' is actually needed and which 'researchers and academic partners' is the real question. (Could "gun control" research be wedged in there... somehow?)

Unfortunately, Newsom's whole speech was less about re-opening things than it was about "here's how I plan to increase Government control," even if it lacked a lot of specifics.

Notice none of the six criteria deals with anything economic, loss of revenue, business restart. any planing required to facilitate that, etc, etc.