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  • sd_shooter
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 13827

    Maintain proper perspective

    I'll just leave this here

  • #2
    VictorFranko
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2010
    • 13737

    Can you provide a link to the source of the chart?
    It does say 2016 on the chart. Is this chart cherry-picking and comparing four months of 2020 to year end statistics of 2016?

    To maintain real proper perspective, the chart should only reflect communicable diseases.

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    • #3
      HibikiR
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 2418

      Should be Apples to Apples (i.e. limited to the same time frame)

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      • #4
        tradecraft
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 4620

        ~3 months of COVID vs full year of everything else. What sort of idiot would.....
        Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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        • #5
          hunterb
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jun 2011
          • 3795

          Originally posted by tradecraft
          ~3 months of COVID vs full year of everything else. What sort of idiot would.....
          LOL this. Chart is dumb.
          Originally posted by johnthomas
          ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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          • #6
            Aces and 8s
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 871

            Well, this is definitely not maintaining PROPER perspective and is anothet disingenuous post. Starting to think OP isn't all that smart because I don't think anyone is intentionally this misleading, well, aside from Liberals or the MSM.

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            • #7
              joe_gman
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 1225

              Looking at perspective

              Deaths from Jan 1- April 12 with estimated data points from chart above.

              Suicides would be about 12,070 deaths to date given a rate of 118 per day.
              Kidney disease - 13,586 deaths
              Flu/ Pneumonia - 15,585 deaths
              Diabetes - 21,586 deaths
              Covid-19 - 21,686 deaths
              Alzheimer's - 26,396 deaths

              Best case scenario in the United States for Covid-19 deaths are estimated to be about 60,000 by August and that is with current SIP protocols.
              We really don't know how bad this can be. We may be lucky with less than 80,000 Covid-19 deaths in the US for the entire 2020 year. It may end up over 200,000. That chart is absolute garbage in regards to perspective.
              Last edited by joe_gman; 04-13-2020, 5:58 AM.
              Religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together. James Madison

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              • #8
                Marauder2003
                Waiting for Abs
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Aug 2010
                • 2987

                Surprised there was not a line labeled Guns.
                #NotMyPresident
                #ArrestFauci
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                • #9
                  orangeglo
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 5818

                  Originally posted by tradecraft
                  ~3 months of COVID vs full year of everything else. What sort of idiot would.....
                  It has been ~45 days since the first COVID-19 death in the US.

                  22,105 have died in the last 45 days.
                  22,055 have died in the last 30 days.
                  19,513 have died in the last 14 days.
                  12,469 have died in the last 7 days.

                  Since the rates of deaths per day is changing rapidly I have added four COVID-19 death per day values to illustrate the rate trend towards the present.

                  I don't think this type of chart is particularly useful, but it's one way of looking at it.



                  Values are from the time of writing this and are approximations.

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                  • #10
                    joe_gman
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1225

                    Originally posted by Marauder2003
                    Surprised there was not a line labeled Guns.
                    It would be about 4,436 non-suicide Firearm related deaths to date or about 15,720 for 2016.
                    Religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together. James Madison

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                    • #11
                      The War Wagon
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 10294

                      Originally posted by sd_shooter
                      I'll just leave this here
                      Hear, hear!!!

                      Originally posted by orangeglo
                      I don't think this type of chart is particularly useful, but it's one way of looking at it.

                      It's not. MOST deaths in HI the first week of December, 1941, were a result of Japanese bullets & bombs.

                      Most people who died in Vegas the first week of October 2017, died from the balcony shooter's (Stephen Paddock) bullets.

                      Narrow down the time frame enough, and you can attribute one hour, one day, one week, one month, or one decade's deaths, to all manner of ABNORMAL circumstances.
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                      • #12
                        sd_shooter
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 13827

                        Originally posted by tradecraft
                        ~3 months of COVID vs full year of everything else. What sort of idiot would.....
                        Originally posted by hunterb
                        LOL this. Chart is dumb.
                        Originally posted by Aces and 8s
                        Well, this is definitely not maintaining PROPER perspective and is anothet disingenuous post. Starting to think OP isn't all that smart because I don't think anyone is intentionally this misleading, well, aside from Liberals or the MSM.
                        Well we only have 2-3 months of Covid data. We'll take another look in a year to see where we stand. It doesn't make the chart "dumb", it's just not complete. However it is as complete as it can be.

                        So make yourself feel at ease just remove the Covid from it entirely. For example this one:
                        (Latest available link from our very own CDC, should be 'official' enough for you)
                        FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.




                        The point is we've done something completely unprecedented: Stop the economy over a bug that is doing relatively little harm.

                        Yes, the virus is real. True, we don't know much about it. No, there's no vaccine. Yes, this epidemic would have caused a lot of harm to the economy.

                        Clearly this is not about "saving lives." People die anyway for a variety of reasons. We're also voluntarily killing people to the tune 600k-700k per year:


                        Don't get caught up in minutiae.

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                        • #13
                          boris badinov
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 617

                          Other than Influenza, how many of the other causes of death are contagious?
                          (CDC toll for 2019-2020 influenza season is only 24,000 dead since )

                          Also, since we're barely over 2 months since the first US CoVid death (Feb 29th), are all of the other leading causes of death measured in < 2 month intervals?

                          Just sayin'
                          "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                          • #14
                            sd_shooter
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 13827

                            Originally posted by boris badinov
                            Other than Influenza, how many of the other causes of death are contagious?
                            (CDC toll for 2019-2020 influenza season is only 24,000 dead since )

                            Also, since we're barely over 2 months since the first US CoVid death (Feb 29th), are all of the other leading causes of death measured in < 2 month intervals?

                            Just sayin'
                            Per the WHO, dozens:


                            My own prediction is that after this year covid will fade into the background and become yet another "flu season" bug we deal with annually.

                            A big one is still AIDS.


                            2018: 1.7M new cases, 770k deaths

                            The kind of "social distancing" that would stop AIDS: stop sleeping around. (Bet Dr Fauci would never recommend this however, it's way too extreme)

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                            • #15
                              zhyla
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2017

                              OP could get a job at an anti-gun think tank with these data manipulation skills.

                              COVID-19 will likely beat out diabetes this year. Let THAT sink in for a bit.

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