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  • LMT4ME
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2170

    What’s the end game of CV19

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    user120312
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 5944

    Summer

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      SAN compnerd
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2009
      • 4725

      Originally posted by LMT4ME
      I haven’t been able to figure out what the end game is for CV19.

      A vaccine is at best 6-12 months and quite possibly will not be 100% effective as CV19 could mutate like influenza. Influenza vaccine is only 40% effective.

      We cannot shelter in place for 6-12 months. Currently NY is a chit storm, but other hotspots like New Orleans, Detroit, Chicago will follow same. It seems like it will roll throughout US like NY if shelter in place is lifted. Eventually, grocery store workers, food manufacturers, etc. are going to get it also. What to stop it?
      Endgame? Create enough economic damage and the perception of mishandling to prevent another term of Trump.

      What's going to stop it? You are asking the wrong question. It won't stop until mid next year, after it has run it's course. vaccs will be available by that time, but much like H1N1, it will disappear on it's own for the most part.

      When it's all over and the science is in, my money is on an event that was not much worse than the flu, and the media, the WHO and the CDC created a global panic to weaponize it against Trump.

      Never in history has a pandemic been handled like this. What changed? We know the WHO put out vastly exaggerated fatality numbers in early March of 3.4%. This after a mid January announcement by the WHO that the Chinese said this was not human transmissible. Would the Chinese want to leverage this to get rid of Trump? Any other global powers?
      Last edited by SAN compnerd; 03-31-2020, 12:46 PM.
      "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
      When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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        Sig556swat
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 654

        Originally posted by user120312
        Summer
        Bingo

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        • #5
          sd_shooter
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2008
          • 13604

          Originally posted by user120312
          Summer
          Originally posted by Sig556swat
          Bingo
          This.

          The infection rate is reduced by 10x for every 10 degree increase in temperature.

          In a few weeks Central TX will be cleansed from the virus entirely

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            LMT4ME
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2170

            Originally posted by sd_shooter
            This.

            The infection rate is reduced by 10x for every 10 degree increase in temperature.

            In a few weeks Central TX will be cleansed from the virus entirely
            What’s the reference for this. Influenza seasons starts in August. Florida been in the 80-90s for the past month.
            Last edited by LMT4ME; 03-31-2020, 3:03 PM.

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              Powder_Keg
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2013
              • 2203

              Morph CV19 so it only targets millennials. Problem solved.

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                user120312
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2012
                • 5944

                Higher UV, lower humidity, in general, in summer, both of which naturally combat the virus. FL, particularly the south part, and perhaps HI, are special due to tropical climate type. Still, if summer does hold, it's a long slog to get there. Let's hope society doesn't go sideways in the meantime. If -19 doesn't follow historical patterns, one more clue to its inception and/or engineering.

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                  LMT4ME
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2170

                  Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                  Endgame? Create enough economic damage and the perception of mishandling to prevent another term of Trump.

                  What's going to stop it? You are asking the wrong question. It won't stop until mid next year, after it has run it's course. vaccs will be available by that time, but much like H1N1, it will disappear on it's own for the most part.

                  When it's all over and the science is in, my money is on an event that was not much worse than the flu, and the media, the WHO and the CDC created a global panic to weaponize it against Trump.

                  Never in history has a pandemic been handled like this. What changed? We know the WHO put out vastly exaggerated fatality numbers in early March of 3.4%. This after a mid January announcement by the WHO that the Chinese said this was not human transmissible. Would the Chinese want to leverage this to get rid of Trump? Any other global powers?

                  Agree with most of your points, especially the media panic but if this continues into July/August it would thoroughly change the conventions and election. The Fed cannot keep writing $2 trillion checks every month till mid next year.

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                    hellayella
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 5578

                    RFID chips under the guise of mandated vaccinations, test runs of the implementation of martial law, boom in stocks of companies that profited from the outbreak and the lives of ordinary people changed forever

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                      harbormaster
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 5900

                      EOTWAWKI
                      1. Compared to what?
                      2. At what cost?
                      3. What hard evidence do you have?

                      T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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                        2shotjoe
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 26474

                        if you're a white female, your effective rate for the flu vax in the 70% range.

                        Originally posted by Kestryll
                        ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                        Originally posted by Libertarian777
                        ...Don't pick either side....

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                        • #13
                          MissiontoMars
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1544

                          Originally posted by LMT4ME
                          The Fed cannot keep writing $2 trillion checks every month till mid next year.

                          Please, don't judge me. Can you tell me why this isn't feasible. I'm not very smart when it comes to economics.

                          Would it devalue the dollar?

                          Is there anything that could be done to help us provide .GOV money to help weather the storm? or alternatively suspend our payments to .GOV through taxes to lift the burdon off people, strategically?

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                          • #14
                            sd_shooter
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 13604

                            Saw it somewhere online

                            For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.

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                              SAN compnerd
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2009
                              • 4725

                              Originally posted by LMT4ME
                              Agree with most of your points, especially the media panic but if this continues into July/August it would thoroughly change the conventions and election. The Fed cannot keep writing $2 trillion checks every month till mid next year.
                              I think with the accelerated timelines around the vaccination development we will see one approved by end of summer, and even though they won't be able to mass produce enough to really help in the fall, it will help keep the panic down and by that time no one is going to be concerned with the 30~50k deaths that already happened from this and the media will lose it's big scary narrative.

                              Plus we can hope for positive results from chloroquine to help tamp down public panic and restore some normalcy.

                              We can also hope that by mid may we have tested 5~10 million people, maybe more, and find how widespread it is and what the real fatality rate is (under 1%, possibly like the flu at .1%), and isolate only the sick and not the whole damn country.

                              Flip side to being a leader in testing, which we will above all countries, means that we will also likely have much higher counts of infections, which will be weaponized to the extent it can to smear POTUS and our healthcare system as inferior in the short term, the victory of mass cheap testing will be remade as how badly the US failed to contain the outbreak. That's happening now.

                              Those not on the panic train will see the facts of how small a percentage of those tested have the infection, and how of those a large percentage had almost no symptoms, a small percentage will have bad symptoms and a tiny, tiny percentage will not survive it, just like the seasonal flu.

                              Then of course there are the 'resistors' who will count deaths due to other conditions as deaths from WuFlu to inflate the numbers as they know there's little chance of being caught.

                              The momentum of the panic train can't last forever and the media loses control of the narrative.
                              "I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." - Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                              Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                              When the middle east descends into complete chaos in 2-3 years due in part to the actions of this administration I'll necro post about how clueless I was.

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