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  • #16
    LMT4ME
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2170

    If the fed did $2 trillion a month for 12 months, this would double the debt. Financial markets would implode. Your 401 or IRA would tank, pennies on the dollar. Money would flee to safe havens. Taxes, inflation would sky rocketed.

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    • #17
      LMT4ME
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2170

      Originally posted by SAN compnerd
      I think with the accelerated timelines around the vaccination development we will see one approved by end of summer, and even though they won't be able to mass produce enough to really help in the fall, it will help keep the panic down and by that time no one is going to be concerned with the 30~50k deaths that already happened from this and the media will lose it's big scary narrative.

      Plus we can hope for positive results from chloroquine to help tamp down public panic and restore some normalcy.

      We can also hope that by mid may we have tested 5~10 million people, maybe more, and find how widespread it is and what the real fatality rate is (under 1%, possibly like the flu at .1%), and isolate only the sick and not the whole damn country.

      Flip side to being a leader in testing, which we will above all countries, means that we will also likely have much higher counts of infections, which will be weaponized to the extent it can to smear POTUS and our healthcare system as inferior in the short term, the victory of mass cheap testing will be remade as how badly the US failed to contain the outbreak. That's happening now.

      Those not on the panic train will see the facts of how small a percentage of those tested have the infection, and how of those a large percentage had almost no symptoms, a small percentage will have bad symptoms and a tiny, tiny percentage will not survive it, just like the seasonal flu.

      Then of course there are the 'resistors' who will count deaths due to other conditions as deaths from WuFlu to inflate the numbers as they know there's little chance of being caught.

      The momentum of the panic train can't last forever and the media loses control of the narrative.
      Agree with everything you say except the death rate. It’s pegged at 1.5% 15-30x higher than influenza 0.1-0.05%. Massive testing worked in Japan and Singapore but it worked with total infringement on freedom, they tracked people on GPS, they published infected names and addresses. Not happening here yet.

      Social isolation works but we’d need to continue till next year. IMHO not feasible.

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      • #18
        harbormaster
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2017
        • 5925

        No Judging

        Sorry that I can't offer facts / just opinions.

        It is my opinion without known details / facts that a country in Europe in the 1920's tried to print there way out of the economic state they were in. I was always moved by the anecdotal story that a butcher and his wife who saved for 17 years so their son could go to college. When that time came they took all the money out of the bank and used it to buy him dinner at a nice restaurant before he was enlisted in their army. The product over over printing is inflation, hyper inflation is what a lot of people will fear when they talk about printing trillions month after month? God help us if the US ever enters a state of hyper inflation. SHTF will be real.

        Conversely in the 1920's the US suffered a state of depression and the powers that be thought creating new money would be a huge mistake, we had 25% unemployment and people couldn't pay any bills - they sold anything and everything to try and keep a roof of their heads - we suffered deflation where as everything lost value because people had to sell to raise cash. The government / FED didn't print any. We really only got out of it thanks to WWII.

        Originally posted by MissiontoMars
        Please, don't judge me. Can you tell me why this isn't feasible. I'm not very smart when it comes to economics.

        Would it devalue the dollar?

        Is there anything that could be done to help us provide .GOV money to help weather the storm? or alternatively suspend our payments to .GOV through taxes to lift the burdon off people, strategically?
        1. Compared to what?
        2. At what cost?
        3. What hard evidence do you have?

        T.S. debunking the Left in 3 simple questions.

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        • #19
          Featureless
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2018
          • 2267

          Originally posted by SAN compnerd
          Endgame? Create enough economic damage and the perception of mishandling to prevent another term of Trump.

          What's going to stop it? You are asking the wrong question. It won't stop until mid next year, after it has run it's course. vaccs will be available by that time, but much like H1N1, it will disappear on it's own for the most part.

          When it's all over and the science is in, my money is on an event that was not much worse than the flu, and the media, the WHO and the CDC created a global panic to weaponize it against Trump.

          Never in history has a pandemic been handled like this. What changed? We know the WHO put out vastly exaggerated fatality numbers in early March of 3.4%. This after a mid January announcement by the WHO that the Chinese said this was not human transmissible. Would the Chinese want to leverage this to get rid of Trump? Any other global powers?
          I can't disagree with any of this. We've seen how deranged the Dem congress has been since Inauguration Day. They only reason they're quiet now is because they've run out of cards. And you know damn well WHO and rest of the globalists absolutely HATE the President. It's well know that the UN has a global agenda; it's also true that we don't get anything close to real news.

          This is, and will continue to be, a true battle of good vs evil. My money is on the USA and the American people. Not all of them but enough to turn it around.
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          ....."He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

          Declaration of Independence, 1776

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          • #20
            jimmykan
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 3089

            We'll be back to normal by Easter.

            But just in case, I've stockpiled enough foil make disposable EMF shielding hats that I can replace weekly.

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            • #21
              The War Wagon
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2011
              • 10294

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              • #22
                cleonard
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 958

                Hopefully it recedes in the summer. No guarantee though.

                All these trials will find something proven to work as a treatment so it stops killing so many.

                Finally a vaccine, but it's going to be a while for that.

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                • #23
                  WingDings
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 1278

                  Has anyone even tried asking the virus what it wants?

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                  • #24
                    avalon42
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 250



                    This.
                    We all get equipped, helmets and masks, with matching gloves. Pick your favorite Daft Punk, Power Ranger (or Super Sentai for you purists), or favorite helmeted cosplay character and build a respirator system in.

                    For guys, don't forget a smaller helmet for the little guy in case you "get lucky".

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                    • #25
                      axhoaxho
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 10004

                      Q: End game of Covid-19?

                      A: November 3rd, 2020.


                      After that, we won't hear a thang about it from the news no more.

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                      • #26
                        cleonard
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 958

                        Originally posted by WingDings
                        Has anyone even tried asking the virus what it wants?
                        All it wants is more.

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                        • #27
                          The War Wagon
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10294

                          Originally posted by axhoaxho
                          Q: End game of Covid-19?

                          A: November 3rd, 2020.


                          After that, we won't hear a thang about it from the news no more.



                          And the winner IS:
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                          • #28
                            desijedi
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 530

                            Developing a vaccine is a race against time. Remember Ebola vaccine development took 5 years and some are still in progress in 2020. To achieve anything in a year or so is a miracle.

                            And yes with less than 1% morality rate, it might be overhyped. But better take some precautions and make them part of your everyday life.

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                            sigpic~ Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.

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                            • #29
                              LBDamned
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 19040

                              Originally posted by axhoaxho
                              Q: End game of Covid-19?

                              A: November 3rd, 2020.


                              After that, we won't hear a thang about it from the news no more.
                              This is the closest thing.

                              It will be something like that.

                              The political circus will be more aggravating than the virus and the country will end up far more divided than it's ever been.

                              Socialism will have krept in - in a way we didnt imagine (regardless who is in office).

                              This was all anticipated weeks ago.
                              "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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                              • #30
                                Tere_Hanges
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 6268

                                Herd immunity. Eventually enough people will get the virus and hopefully there will be a viable vaccine so that the infection rate will be manageable and SIP measures can be lifted. But that could be months away. As long as people are spreading it and herd immunity is low, as soon as SIP is lifted there will be a spike. But hopefully the healthcare system will be able to manage it better. Time will tell. I had to go to the gocery store today, and I can tell you, very few people are taking this thing seriously. Its really a joke. Its going to take off as soon as SIP is lifted.
                                CRPA and NRA member.

                                Note that those who have repeatedly expressed enough vile and incoherent content as to render your views irrelevant, have been placed on my ignore list. Thank you for helping me improve my experience and direct my attention towards those who are worthy of it. God bless your toxic little souls.

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