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[Hoooper]

So based on the article you posted, what % higher is travel between Italy and China than Germany and China?

[Phalanx20mm]

Maybe they were right about genetics in the 30's?

[harbormaster]

Hypothesis;

Flights out of China (more likely to go to Rome or Berlin)? Where did the US impact hit? Flights out of China more likely to go to Seattle, SF, NY or Miami, Denver and Dallas? It looks to me like those getting more Chinese visitors / traffic are suffering the most. Germany is smart enough to have responded faster then Italy based on the performance of South Korea.

[nn21]

There was an article posted a few days ago that had an interview with one of the italian ministry of health advisers the other day who attributed it largely to they way they document deaths.

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

[timdps]

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Though I havent seen any evidence to suggest more travel Italy-China than Germany-China

320,000 legal (and plenty of illegal) migrant Chinese workers in Italy, many of them freshly returned from Chinese new years celebrations in China. There are direct flights to Milan from Chinese cities including Wuhan, the city where 5,000,000 people left town just before the quarantine.

This is why Italy exploded.

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[MrBlond]

All the kissing.

[sd_shooter]

better care to some extent, but there are differences in reporting.

Italy reports all deaths with COV-19 as COV deaths, even if you get hit by a bus after testing positive.

Germany takes the opposite approach, where they only report COV deaths if that's what killed the person. If they can claim heart trouble or COPD was the cause, they will, even if the person tested positive.

And that's how all deaths should be reported: what actually killed the person.