Caldor Fire explodes

[Pinto]

They have Aero Commander up mapping the Caldor fire that's now moved on to mapping the Dixie fire.


N501TC - https://www.flightradar24.com/N501TC/28d1fc36

[harbormaster]

It sickens me environmentalist blame MMGW and ignore their own impacts on our state.

[Sierra57]

The fire has moved so fast that none of the acreage calculations on various fire mapping sites are even close to accurate. A talking head on the 6 o'clock news said 30,000 acres, and he also said that estimate was a couple of hours old. I'm thinking it is over 50,000.

[tuolumnejim]

Its going to be a bad one, I saw the smoke plume rising from my house in Stagecoach, Nevada this morning.

Check this video its hotter than hades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqU8T8tkWTY&t=123s

[Cali-Glock]

This fire started on Sunday and was growing slowly until last night. This is another fire that got away from USFS.

Looks like it's only a couple of miles away from Highway 50 now. If we get a north wind, it could also go south towards Highway 88.

http://www.alertwildfire.org/tahoe/index.html?camera=Axis-Leek

https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/%3F/%3F/38.6532/-120.4484/12

Yes, there are some annoyed people. The folks in Grizzly Flats were pushing for an aggressive stance on this fire when it was started and the authorities repeatedly reassured the community they had nothing to worry about.

Last night/morning was a different story - Amador and El Dorado Deputies everywhere pulling people off the hill. Cal-Fire and fire trucks from agencies all over were all over Grizzly Flat road. I honestly believe they kept people from dying Monday Night/Tuesday morning.

I know a senior CCF field management who normally runs a command out of McClellan AFB overseeing these types of fires but he has personal ties to Grizzly Flats and apparently chose to be on scene instead of at a remote command center. Questionable perhaps, but it is another sign to me of just how seriously everyone took this fire when it did blow up Monday night.

Other than a couple of cat-naps in my truck today, I have not slept since Sunday.

In this thread alone I have already violated opsec than I have in total over the past two plus decades online. (I had zero online Opsec in the early-mid 1990s) So what the hell. In a few weeks just forget this thread and what I say here. I will try to shut up after this statement: I am fine and grateful, but this has been difficult. The wonderful thing is the amazing positive attitude that everyone has; I have spent the night communicating with friend after friend who has lost everything but the shirt on their backs, a vehicle and some pets and to a person they are all positive and encouraging one another. As I write this I just got word from a close friend that he has confirmation that his house is indeed gone.




This was taken this evening at Ice House Road on Highway 50!

[Misterclick]

My heart goes out to everyone impacted whether just evacuated or nothing to come back to after. Fires are relentless and brutal. Just having to leave what is supposed to be your safe harbor is for wrenching.

Pray and thank the firefighters!

[Cali-Glock]

A 12' wide street doesn't mean **** to a crown fire driven by wind. We live in the forest and trees up here are 100+ feet tall.

Exactly. Check out the flames roaring over the tops of those 100 foot tall trees.

It is insane. Fire breaks, 100+ foot clear areas around homes are great, but if have a real fire, none of that means anything.

I was in the 1990 Painted Cave Fire in Santa Barbara. The fire went from the top of the mountain behind Santa Barbara, though neighborhood after neighborhood and at about 6pm it jumped a six lane freeway (plus frontage roads) and immediately lit up the neighborhood on the other side. If a fire is not going to slow down for a 6 lane freeway, no amount of fire-safe preps are going to do anything to thwart a fire like we are witnessing in the Caldor Fire. (Or any of the other big fires we have had in recent years.)

Poor forest management is the big problem... the other problem are the idiots who live in such a place.

[Cali-Glock]

My heart goes out to everyone impacted whether just evacuated or nothing to come back to after. Fires are relentless and brutal. Just having to leave what is supposed to be your safe harbor is for wrenching.

Pray and thank the firefighters!

Amen!!!

[SanDiego619]

A 12' wide street doesn't mean **** to a crown fire driven by wind. We live in the forest and trees up here are 100+ feet tall.

Yep, with high winds embers can blow a lot farther than 12 feet, or 120 feet, or 1200 feet.

[GOEX FFF]

Its going to be a bad one, I saw the smoke plume rising from my house in Stagecoach, Nevada this morning.

Check this video its hotter than hades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqU8T8tkWTY&t=123s

The size and height of those flames is insane.

Here's the same video without the talking.
Set the playback speed to 0.25.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka07cAWb230

[Sierra57]

Yes, there are some annoyed people. The folks in Grizzly Flats were pushing for an aggressive stance on this fire when it was started and the authorities repeatedly reassured the community they had nothing to worry about.

Last night/morning was a different story - Amador and El Dorado Deputies everywhere pulling people off the hill. Cal-Fire and fire trucks from agencies all over were all over Grizzly Flat road. I honestly believe they kept people from dying Monday Night/Tuesday morning.

I know a senior CCF field management who normally runs a command out of McClellan AFB overseeing these types of fires but he has personal ties to Grizzly Flats and apparently chose to be on scene instead of at a remote command center. Questionable perhaps, but it is another sign to me of just how seriously everyone took this fire when it did blow up Monday night.

Other than a couple of cat-naps in my truck today, I have not slept since Sunday.

In this thread alone I have already violated opsec than I have in total over the past two plus decades online. (I had zero online Opsec in the early-mid 1990s) So what the hell. In a few weeks just forget this thread and what I say here. I will try to shut up after this statement: I am fine and grateful, but this has been difficult. The wonderful thing is the amazing positive attitude that everyone has; I have spent the night communicating with friend after friend who has lost everything but the shirt on their backs, a vehicle and some pets and to a person they are all positive and encouraging one another. As I write this I just got word from a close friend that he has confirmation that his house is indeed gone.




This was taken this evening at Ice House Road on Highway 50!

The USFS also reassured the public that everything was okay on the Tamarack Fire near Markleeville over a month ago, and a wind that came up caused that fire to take off after doing little for a few days. They could have easily knocked that fire down. I'm not sure what BS excuse they used on that fire. We could see the pyrocumulus clouds from Fallen Leaf every afternoon and evening while we were there.

[Cali-Glock]

Yep, with high winds embers can blow a lot farther than 12 feet, or 120 feet, or 1200 feet.

The leading edge of the fire is made up of tons of spot fires which started by those embers blowing out in front of the main fire. Shifting winds also send spot fires off into other directions besides the primary leading front as well.

[Sierra57]

Yep, with high winds embers can blow a lot farther than 12 feet, or 120 feet, or 1200 feet.

My brother was in the middle of the Oakland Hills firestorm. He saw the embers dropping down from way up the hill and across the 24/13 interchange and Lake Temescal, and start fires in the upper Rockridge neighborhood.

[lapsbpbep]

I have family by slypark that was evacuated this morning and I also have family up in Woodford that had to evaluate. Too the ones In Woodford lost there house back in 1986 . We all hate this time of year. My prayers are with all of the people who are affected by these fires 🔥. I would love to move up in to the hills but dealing with fires is the reason I don't think keep all these people in are prayers

[Sierra57]

There is a spot fire now on Highway 50 at Riverton and numerous spot fires to the east of the main fire.