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  • #16
    ktmguy
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 537

    Originally posted by anti
    $2500! No way. I've spent much more than that on shotguns but these guns are long proven.
    Dude that is just the msrp... My Ethos had a $1999 msrp and I got it for $1599 brand new two months after it was released so I would expect the actual market price to be around $2000 while they are being introduced and expect it to drop maybe a couple hundred lower in a year or so.

    Im not very knowledgeable on the over/under market but at 6.5 pounds that is the same weight as my ethos and I can vouch for the progressive comfort stock, it works. I have a benelli sport ii and the ethos both in 12 gauge and the ethos is almost a pound lighter and recoils about 10-15% less than the sport ii. If this new O/U swings like the ethos (nearly identical weight) then I can say I am interested but if I am spending around 2k on a third benelli it would be the performance shop super sport in 20 gauge not a third 12 gauge(unless its an m2 tactical but they are around one grand). But I like it, I am excieted to see which of my shooting buddies picks it up so I can see how it is first hand before making any real judgement calls.
    Last edited by ktmguy; 01-20-2015, 8:22 PM.

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    • #17
      anti
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 2098

      Originally posted by ktmguy
      Dude that is just the msrp... My Ethos had a $1999 msrp and I got it for $1599 brand new two months after it was released so I would expect the actual market price to be around $2000 while they are being introduced and expect it to drop maybe a couple hundred lower in a year or so.

      Im not very knowledgeable on the over/under market but at 6.5 pounds that is the same weight as my ethos and I can vouch for the progressive comfort stock, it works. I have a benelli sport ii and the ethos both in 12 gauge and the ethos is almost a pound lighter and recoils about 10-15% less than the sport ii. If this new O/U swings like the ethos (nearly identical weight) then I can say I am interested but if I am spending around 2k on a third benelli it would be the performance shop super sport in 20 gauge not a third 12 gauge(unless its an m2 tactical but they are around one grand). But I like it, I am excieted to see which of my shooting buddies picks it up so I can see how it is first hand before making any real judgement calls.
      Obviously, but that's still a lot of money to spend on a gun you aren't sure about, and once taxes and fees are tacked on you're getting closer to MSRP. Benelli isn't known to have junky guns but they aren't known for making quality double guns for decades, either. Only time will tell but until then I'll let others roll the dice with their money. And don't try compare it to the swing of an auto; double guns balance completely differently.
      Last edited by anti; 01-20-2015, 10:48 PM.
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      • #18
        axhoaxho
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        • Jun 2009
        • 10065

        The new Benelli 828U O/U is exactly what my wife is looking for -- Adjustable fit, relatively lightweight, recoil reduction, Benelli quality, and it looks rather nice especially in its AA Grade Satin Walnut Engraved Nickel trim.

        The price is an ouch, but Benelli's are never cheap... it is in our have-list this year.



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        • #19
          joefrank64k
          @ the Dark End of the Bar
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Mar 2009
          • 10124

          That's a fine looking o/u...nice blend of classic and modern lines.
          You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
          If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
          Come on...what harm??

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          • #20
            shovelon
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 1851

            I want to know more about the aluminum receiver. What alloy? Is it forged, casted, or extruded? Are the wear points bushed or sleeved? Judging by the weight I would assume not.

            Benelli is a great brand, with lots of technology incorporated, but I would have preferred a stainless steel receiver like the defunct Ruger Red Label.
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            • #21
              gearheadfred
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 72

              Originally posted by axhoaxho
              I'm surprised that they decided to go with the gap between the two barrels. As an owner of the cheap-as-dirt Mossberg/Maverick O/U (which also has a gap between the barrels), I was under the impression that that was a cheap feature. Hm.

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              • #22
                hattles
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 519

                No, those "split" barrel configurations have been used on some of the higher end competition shotguns for decades. I've seen them on a lot of high end shotguns. Skeet, sporting clays and trap guns like Blaser, Kolar, Krieghoff, Winchester etc all have featured split/floating barrel configuration on some models.

                This is the Benelli patent info:
                Justia › Patents › Method Of Making Or Modifying By Metal Working›Barrel Assembly For Firearms and Method For Manufacturing It Patent Application (Application #20130174462)
                Barrel Assembly For Firearms and Method For Manufacturing It
                Jun 27, 2012 - BENELLI ARMI S.P.A.


                A barrel assembly for firearms including one or more tubes associated with a mono-block, characterized in that the mono-block has one or more cylindrical protrusions which allow the connection of one or more of the tubes and the subsequent joining thereof by welding, adhesive bonding, forcing, etcetera. The method for manufacturing the barrel assembly is characterized in that it includes the steps of: providing a mono-block which includes one or more front cylindrical protrusions, one or more partial chambers axially aligned with the protrusions, and corresponding collars for the cartridge seats, extractor seats, and closure members such as closure tenons or other members; all the members are completed with their final dimensions; performing an overall heat treatment of the mono-block and of the barrels; connecting the tubes, which constitute the barrels of the firearm, by welding, adhesive bonding, forcing, etcetera, to the protrusions.


                I think the primary function is weight saving and that the barrels will cool down quicker and that there is less distortion caused by the heat transfer from one barrel to the other...primarily designed to reduce weight and minimalize any effects of heat distortion in the metal.
                Last edited by hattles; 01-21-2015, 1:19 PM.
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                • #23
                  gearheadfred
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 72

                  Originally posted by hattles


                  A barrel assembly for firearms including one or more tubes associated with a mono-block, characterized in that the mono-block has one or more cylindrical protrusions which allow the connection of one or more of the tubes and the subsequent joining thereof by welding, adhesive bonding, forcing, etcetera. The method for manufacturing the barrel assembly is characterized in that it includes the steps of: providing a mono-block which includes one or more front cylindrical protrusions, one or more partial chambers axially aligned with the protrusions, and corresponding collars for the cartridge seats, extractor seats, and closure members such as closure tenons or other members; all the members are completed with their final dimensions; performing an overall heat treatment of the mono-block and of the barrels; connecting the tubes, which constitute the barrels of the firearm, by welding, adhesive bonding, forcing, etcetera, to the protrusions.


                  I think the primary function is weight saving and that the barrels will cool down quicker and that there is less distortion caused by the heat transfer from one barrel to the other...primarily designed to reduce weight and minimalize any effects of heat distortion in the metal.
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                  • #24
                    axhoaxho
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 10065

                    hattles,

                    Not sure if you realized, all your posts in this forum were shown in bold fonts.

                    It was hard to read all your posts when all the texts were in bold fonts -- like you were screaming at me all the time.

                    I didn't see your posts at shotgunworld were written in bold. Might be some font settings in your computer that you could look into?

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                    • #25
                      hattles
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 519

                      Originally posted by axhoaxho
                      hattles,

                      Not sure if you realized, all your posts in this forum were shown in bold fonts.

                      It was hard to read all your posts when all the texts were in bold fonts -- like you were screaming at me all the time.

                      I didn't see your posts at shotgunworld were written in bold. Might be some font settings in your computer that you could look into?
                      And here I always thought all CAPS was the only method used for screamers online. Learn something new every day.

                      Sorry, had I known it was you reading my posts ahead of time I would not have highlighted my fonts. I'll take your suggestion under advisement and try to do better.
                      Last edited by hattles; 01-21-2015, 6:39 PM.
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                      • #26
                        axhoaxho
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 10065

                        Originally posted by hattles
                        And here I always thought all CAPS was the only method used for screamers online. Learn something new every day.

                        Sorry, had I known it was you reading my posts ahead of time I would not have highlighted my fonts. I'll take your suggestion under advisement and try to do better.
                        Thanks.

                        Please keep those informative posts coming.

                        Cheers,

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                        • #27
                          JagerDog
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2011
                          • 15056

                          Not a bad looking shootin iron. I've certainly seen worse in the "new and improved" category (ala Cynergy and others).

                          $2500 MSRP isn't shocking by any means.

                          Personally, I like aluminum in autos and steel in breech loaders for a between-the-hands balance, but........

                          I have a circa 60's (Garcia era) Beretta with the "floating" barrels. I know I've seen it on K-guns too.
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