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  • Warlock18
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 3

    L C Smith Shotgun

    My father gave me his shotgun a few weeks ago, and I have no idea what it's worth, or what to do with it. Anyone who can give me more information, I welcome all of it. Thanks in advance.
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  • #2
    tnlrat37
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2166

    My dad has the same one but in a 16 ga that was his grandfathers. these guns values are all over the board from 800-up to 5000$ or more.
    The objectives of The L.C. Smith Collectors Association are to: •Stimulate and educate members and the public in their knowledge of the history and production of the L.C. Smith shotgun. •Encourage

    You can also look on gunsamerica or gunbroker to find something similar. My dad will never sell his because its a family heirloom and I had to promise not to sell it also and to keep handing it down.
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    • #3
      powderedtoastman
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1152

      Looks like it's in good condition, with possibly a replaced stock? I have the same thing, made in 1927. Trying to find somebody to fit a new stock is a B&^$#!
      I fly everywhere backwards.
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      • #4
        anti
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 2098

        Post the pics on shotgunworld and you'll get better responses.
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        • #5
          NapalmCheese
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2011
          • 5950

          So, here's my interpretation:

          It appears to be an L.C. Smith Field grade 12 gauge (no kidding right?)

          Seems to have a fair amount of case colors on the locks, though the finish on the barrels seems worn, indicating it was used.

          The stock seems too pristine to be vintage.

          Given that the barrels say Armor Steel on them, and that there's no indication of of the left barrel saying "Hunter Arms Co." I'm going to assume that it is a Marlin produced LC Smith from the 1940's or so. That the barrels do not have a choke designation on them likely means that both barrels were choked full. So far as I can tell, L.C. Smith produced guns that were choked full/full so that the end user could have a gunsmith open them to whatever the end user wanted; often they were left as is.

          A picture of the water table, that is the part of the frame that the barrels attach too (more specifically the flat part of the frame the lumps insert into and the 'face' where the firing pins protrude) will tell more. It should be marked FWS or R and have your serial number on it.

          Always ensure that your gun is cocked before removing the splinter fore end. You can cock this shotgun by simply opening the action.

          It's value is somewhere between $200 and multi-thousand dollars. The Field grades tend to not bring a lot of money, but usually fetch upwards of $500 unless they are really messed with. If the stock and fore end is new that can hurt the value unless the rest of the gun is restored. There are two markets for these kind of guns: one that wants the gun worn and used, and another that wants the gun pristine looking and restored. Worn and used but in good shape usually brings more money than pristine and restored.
          Last edited by NapalmCheese; 10-24-2014, 11:16 PM.
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          • #6
            NapalmCheese
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2011
            • 5950

            Yours (given the frame shape) appears to be a featherweight.

            I'm going to bet it's a marlin produced LC Smith. I would wager it has an FWS prefix to the serial number on the water table and was produced between 1946 and 1950 on original L.C. Smith tooling by Marlin.

            If the above is true, it is a fine shotgun, as fine as any LC Smith made before the factory floor collapsed in 1950. If it is well worn there is no reason to keep it from more honest wear, shoot it, hunt with it, enjoy it; the exception being if you are trying to collect it as opposed to 'own' it and the stock is starting to crack (not uncommon behind the tang).

            In the future, if you find that you pull the splinter fore end off of the iron (often the wood is oil soaked and very soft) I can tell you how to fix it.
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            • #7
              NapalmCheese
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2011
              • 5950

              Oh yeah:
              The objectives of The L.C. Smith Collectors Association are to: •Stimulate and educate members and the public in their knowledge of the history and production of the L.C. Smith shotgun. •Encourage
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              • #8
                Thefeeder
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 5004

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                Dang Napalmcheese ...you know L C.s

                I concur...stock is almost a sure bet refinished or replaced.

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                • #9
                  NapalmCheese
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5950

                  Originally posted by Thefeeder
                  Dang Napalmcheese ...you know L C.s

                  I concur...stock is almost a sure bet refinished or replaced.
                  Heh, thanks!
                  When I research, I research. It just so happens that I have a soft spot for earlyish shotguns, the more American the better, the more SxS the better. I'm still kicking myself for passing on a good Dan Lefever in Nevada that locked up tight but had it's lever too far left.
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                  • #10
                    Thefeeder
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 5004

                    Remember what Tuco said " If your going to shoot, shoot, don't talk"

                    Take care and lets get together and break some clay someday

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                    • #11
                      Warlock18
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 3

                      My father told me that everything on it is original.

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                      • #12
                        Ducky's Dad
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 737

                        From what I can see in the pics, the gun looks right. The only question in my mind is the finish on the wood, I would expect a bit more gloss. Could be it was buffed down with steel wool, or could just be odd lighting for the pics. I bought a similar gun about five years ago for $600: 1947 FW 12 with 30" barrels and lots of original case color, original butt plate, completely unmessed with.

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                        • #13
                          NapalmCheese
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 5950

                          Originally posted by Warlock18
                          My father told me that everything on it is original.
                          If it is all original then that's awesome.

                          Snap a pic of the water table for us would you?
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                          • #14
                            Bigyates
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 572

                            I have a couple of LC's. agree with most of what's been said; value 800-1200.

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                            • #15
                              Warlock18
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3

                              Took these a couple of minutes ago
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