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  • ptoguy2002
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3863

    Awesome product idea ( Mesa ??? )

    Make a replacement Mossberg 500/590 trigger housing that would use a push button safety (like the 870). Would open all those Mossbergs out there to getting pistol grips.
    As it is, a pistol grip on a Mossberg is not practical. Should be easy enough to CNC out of aluminum?

    OR a Garand type even too.

    Last edited by ptoguy2002; 08-12-2014, 4:31 PM.
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  • #2
    KracknCorn
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 785

    All said and done, probably be cheaper to just buy a remington 870
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    • #3
      Mitch
      Mostly Harmless
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2008
      • 6574

      Or a Maverick 88.

      We produced a design for an 870 trigger housing for cold climates where people need gloves. It was a real challenge trying to figure out how to produce and market it.
      Originally posted by cockedandglocked
      Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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      • #4
        Steve_In_29
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 5682

        The Maverick 88's trigger housing (with push button safety) will work in the 500.

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        • #5
          strongpoint
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 3115

          Awesome product idea ( Mesa ??? )

          Originally posted by ptoguy2002
          As it is, a pistol grip on a Mossberg is not practical.
          I'm not convinced of this, but I admit I need more range and class time with my PG Mossbergs.

          Originally posted by Steve_In_29
          The Maverick 88's trigger housing (with push button safety) will work in the 500.
          More details about this, please. Is the pushbutton safety fully functional? Does the existing safety become nonfunctional? Is it also compatible with the 590 series? What are Maverick 88 trigger housings made of?
          .

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          • #6
            Mitch
            Mostly Harmless
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2008
            • 6574

            Maverick 88s go on sales at Turners tomorrow. I'm buying two of them.
            Originally posted by cockedandglocked
            Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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            • #7
              aippi
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 2302

              The larger trigger guard on the 870 would be a big plus here in Michigan. It would also be a great upgrade for LE's in Northern states. But you know how I pushed that one.
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              • #8
                3006mv
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 1979

                Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                The Maverick 88's trigger housing (with push button safety) will work in the 500.
                Not that I am doing this but if you did put an 88 trigger group in a 500 what do you do with the tang safety? Remove and fill blank space?
                Seems better to get an 88 or a birds head pistol grip
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                I plead the 2nd.

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                • #9
                  Steve_In_29
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 5682

                  Originally posted by strongpoint
                  .....More details about this, please. Is the pushbutton safety fully functional? Does the existing safety become nonfunctional? Is it also compatible with the 590 series? What are Maverick 88 trigger housings made of?
                  Originally posted by 3006mv
                  Not that I am doing this but if you did put an 88 trigger group in a 500 what do you do with the tang safety? Remove and fill blank space?
                  Seems better to get an 88 or a birds head pistol grip
                  I only briefly perused the info on this as the only Mossy I own is a .410. From what I remember the tang safety is defeated (no connection to Mav88 group) and the pushbutton one functions as it would if group was installed in the Mav88.

                  AFAIK the 500 and 590 have the same trigger group, with the 590's simply being made out of metal vice the 500's plastic.

                  IIRC the Mav88 has a plastic trigger guard as it is after all simply the cheaper version of the 500.

                  Obviously anyone contemplating this switch must already have the 500/590 and not likely to replace those, since the Mav88 is a step down from them.

                  I agree the birdshead-grip/tang-safety combo would be a good way to go, as long as the person isn't needing a folding or adjustable stock.

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                  • #10
                    strongpoint
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 3115

                    Awesome product idea ( Mesa ??? )

                    ^^^ Thanks, Steve_In_29.

                    They're out of stock, but Numrich has a product page for what appears to be complete Mav88 trigger groups here.

                    So with a Mav88 trigger group (tang safety removed and plugged somehow) and an extended slide release lever, would we finally be putting to rest any ergonomic reasons not to PG a Mossberg 500/590?
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                    • #11
                      Mitch
                      Mostly Harmless
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6574

                      I just bought a couple Mav 88s at the Turners sale and will start playing with them when they get out of jail.

                      I'm not sure how the Mav 88 is a "step down" from the Moss 500. I know it's usually cheaper . . .
                      Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                      Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                      • #12
                        Steve_In_29
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 5682

                        Originally posted by Mitch
                        I just bought a couple Mav 88s at the Turners sale and will start playing with them when they get out of jail.

                        I'm not sure how the Mav 88 is a "step down" from the Moss 500. I know it's usually cheaper . . .
                        Well Mossberg considers it a step down, as they market it as a lower cost option to their 500. So they must be cutting costs on it somehow.

                        Also when I compared the Mav88 (USA) to the Stevens 350 (China) the Stevens felt MUCH more solid and smooth. In fact had I not known better I would have picked the Mav88 as the made in China weapon.
                        Last edited by Steve_In_29; 08-19-2014, 8:07 AM.

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                        • #13
                          saki302
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7186

                          I actually like the Mossberg safety, then again I only run straight stocks on shotguns.

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                          • #14
                            crackerman
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 2441

                            Originally posted by Mitch
                            I just bought a couple Mav 88s at the Turners sale and will start playing with them when they get out of jail.

                            I'm not sure how the Mav 88 is a "step down" from the Moss 500. I know it's usually cheaper . . .
                            The manerick 88 is made with some Mexican sourced parts and is assembled in eagle pass Texas, uses the pinned forearm, and without the tang safety and not drilled and tapped there is less machining of the receiver so the can sell at a lower price point.

                            My maverick 20g feels just as good as my 3 500's
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                            • #15
                              Mitch
                              Mostly Harmless
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6574

                              Originally posted by crackerman
                              The manerick 88 is made with some Mexican sourced parts and is assembled in eagle pass Texas, uses the pinned forearm, and without the tang safety and not drilled and tapped there is less machining of the receiver so the can sell at a lower price point.
                              Those sound like significant "steps down," especially the non-drilled and tapped receiver.
                              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                              Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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