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  • #16
    TZL
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 3197

    Well I still have two s12....so not missing out

    I had 5 last year but sold two in post-newton for $2k :-D



    Originally posted by Nrai2020
    Wow your a good man.. I was thinking about selling my saiga12 bc i kinda need the money.. And it really doesn't get that much use..But everytime I pull it out and take a look at it i remember how bad *** it is..it's just too dam big for any real hd role..

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    • #17
      gixer1k
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 207

      Riflegear still has S12 in stock. $850

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      • #18
        Nrai2020
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 2344

        Originally posted by TZL
        Well I still have two s12....so not missing out

        I had 5 last year but sold two in post-newton for $2k :-D
        Stock s12's for $2k?

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        • #19
          Mrs Rabbit
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 72

          I do still have the Saiga 12... price has not and will not change @ 849.99.

          The Raspy Rabbit, Palmdale.

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          • #20
            Chewbaca
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 2686

            glad i got mine

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            • #21
              laurelpark
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 1013

              Bummer - I was just talking to a buddy who was embarking on the impossible task of trying to buy an AA-12, and I suggested he give up on that and just get a Saiga-12.

              When it really comes down to it, I'm not going to cry over this. As far as good tactical shotguns go, a Benelli M4 with extended tube will hold 9 rounds (7+1+1), and it will shoot them just fine.

              Maybe the Saiga ban will get the guys at MPS to develop a semi-auto 10+1version of the AA-12 and build it in large enough quantities that the price isn't insane.

              EDIT: PS - I wonder if some of that FUD being thrown around a while ago about Russian made ammo disappearing is going to come true...
              Last edited by laurelpark; 07-18-2014, 1:49 PM.

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              • #22
                TZL
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 3197

                Converted with nice parts, magpul, tromix, chaos etc



                Originally posted by Nrai2020
                Stock s12's for $2k?

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                • #23
                  Nrai2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 2344

                  Originally posted by laurelpark
                  Bummer - I was just talking to a buddy who was embarking on the impossible task of trying to buy an AA-12, and I suggested he give up on that and just get a Saiga-12.

                  When it really comes down to it, I'm not going to cry over this. As far as good tactical shotguns go, a Benelli M4 with extended tube will hold 9 rounds (7+1+1), and it will shoot them just fine.

                  Maybe the Saiga ban will get the guys at MPS to develop a semi-auto 10+1version of the AA-12 and build it in large enough quantities that the price isn't insane.

                  EDIT: PS - I wonder if some of that FUD being thrown around a while ago about Russian made ammo disappearing is going to come true...
                  1) Someone really needs to make a bullpup semi auto shotgun... I have a KSG and its amazing how compact and how great of an HD gun it would be if it was more reliable...It doesnt even need to hold more than 6 or 7 rounds..

                  2) Isnt most "russian" ammo actually from Ukraine? Tula, Wolf, Bear, Spam cans.... etc?

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                  • #24
                    nicki
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 4208

                    AK arms.

                    it is only a matter of time before someone gets the idea of manufacturing arms here in the United States.

                    The upcoming elections in 2014/16 will determine if that actually happens.

                    In any event, we reducing cost 3D printers and 3D printers that can now make metal guns, the upcoming reindustrialization of America will make small scale gin manufacturing cost effective.

                    Given a ban, smoething tells me that the Russians may be game to license American made guns for a royality.

                    Many people who buy SAIGA shotguns modify them anyway. An American bulit AK shotgun would probably be built with many of the mods we want as standard equipment.

                    The VEPR 12 actually could provide a working model to build AKs that actually hafe a last shot bolt hold open feature.

                    Is this annoying, absolutely.

                    Perhaps we can pool our funds, open up factory in a free state that appreciates our business and make quality guns, this is of course assuming someone else isn't already doing so.

                    Nicki

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                    • #25
                      CAGLS
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3758

                      Buds gun shop is getting 300 Vepr 12s with the wood stock and selling @ $1299.

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                      • #26
                        hcbr
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 4733

                        Originally posted by CAGLS
                        Buds gun shop is getting 300 Vepr 12s with the wood stock and selling @ $1299.
                        Problem with buds, they wont' ship it to you unless it's already CA friendly, (i.e. they will NOT put on compliant parts ala bullet button on there for you)

                        ::Sigh::
                        Be the change that you wish to see in the world.Mahatma Gandhi

                        "A bullet sounds the same in every language..."
                        ― Stewie Griffin (Family Guy Episode: Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story 2005)

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                        • #27
                          csMaverick
                          Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 325

                          Originally posted by nicki
                          it is only a matter of time before someone gets the idea of manufacturing arms here in the United States.
                          ...
                          Perhaps we can pool our funds, open up factory in a free state that appreciates our business and make quality guns, this is of course assuming someone else isn't already doing so.

                          Nicki
                          Like......Kel-Tec?
                          sigpic
                          I feel the need...

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                          • #28
                            Yuba
                            Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 458

                            Obama is a communist so to ban russian guns is so ironic
                            sigpicThey who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin

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                            • #29
                              Spyder
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 17357

                              I traded my S12 for a 1919. Even with this news and the skyrocketing prices, I made a helluva deal.

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                              • #30
                                sdkevin
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2013
                                • 2248

                                I'm not a fan of box magazine fed shotguns myself or Russian designed firearms in general
                                Two of the most reliable qualities in a firearm. I can accurately deliver 10oz of lead sooner than you might expect - and another 10oz, and another, etc.

                                I would take an S-12 over a Street Sweeper any day.

                                The AK actually has some very distinct ties to its German predecessor.
                                After watching WTC Bldg #7 being razed, and considering it's main occupants..

                                I stumbled onto this note while checking advanced weapons..
                                "911 = false flag. WTC 7 was brought down by demolition. 47 floors came down in 6 1/2 seconds - not hit by a plane. Just one of hundreds of absurdities that occurred that day. Wake up".

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