Higher brass matters?

[Thefeeder]

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Keep in you can see the height of the brass on a shotgun shell and know when you are looking at a high or low velocity shell.

negative...the height of the brass has no bearing on the velocity of the shell...the info on the box is the only way to tell.
you can not say just from the brass which shell runs at a higher volicity

these high brass run at 1250...

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Shotgun-Ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104567580/Fiocchi-Golden-Pheasant-High-Velocity-Ammunition-Per-10-Boxes/740472.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshotgun-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100191%2B4294751461%2FNe-4294751461%3FWTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104567580

these low brass run at 1300fps

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winchester-reg-AA-Shotshells-Per-Case/731068.uts

[Huntsprig]

I think that was a generalization, not a statement of fact. High velocity field loads often have high brass hulls, but it is by no means a requirement.

It may have been a generalization but it is a bad one.
As a rule of thumb the weight of the shot is a much better way to determine whether a shell is high or low brass and yes there are a few exceptions to the rule.
There are a lot of 1 oz shells out there with low brass in the 1200-1300 fps range.
There are also a lot of 1.25 oz + high brass shells in the 1200-1300 fps range.

None of the 1 oz loads will have high brass.
All of the 1.25+ oz loads will.

[Huntsprig]

Keep in you can see the height of the brass on a shotgun shell and know when you are looking at a high or low velocity shell.

negative...the height of the brass has no bearing on the velocity of the shell...the info on the box is the only way to tell.
you can not say just from the brass which shell runs at a higher volicity

these high brass run at 1250...

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Shotgun-Ammunition%7C/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104567580/Fiocchi-Golden-Pheasant-High-Velocity-Ammunition-Per-10-Boxes/740472.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshotgun-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100191%2B4294751461%2FNe-4294751461%3FWTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=Unknown%3Bcat104567580

these low brass run at 1300fps

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Winch...ase/731068.uts

You beat me to it!

What other major mistakes do you see on this thead?

[Thefeeder]

i'll start a new shotgun shell Q and A thread....its not fair to the OP

[Paul053]

i'll start a new shotgun shell Q and A thread....its not fair to the OP

Screw that my question was answered! Continue on!

[003]

OK, so now to add a bit more information that is contradictory to the norm in both pistol and rifle ammunition. In both rifle and pistol ammunition the term “magnum” generally means higher velocity and hence more powerful. With shotgun ammunition the term means more shot by weight and hence more power and denser patterns but not more velocity.

[M14 Junkie]

The Federal 00 buck LE127 9 PELLET HV 1325 FPS shells that I have, has 1/2" high brass.

What's that considered, medium high brass?

[Huntsprig]

The Federal 00 buck LE127 9 PELLET HV 1325 FPS shells that I have, has 1/2" high brass.

What's that considered, medium high brass?

It means you can go both ways.

[pacrat]

early on "anti said"

Well, that's a general rule of thumb, but if it's just a little bit higher then it doesn't necessarily mean much.

Which is pretty accurate as far as it goes.

Problem is, there is no everytime correct answer. Because generally speaking, everyone has different size thumbs. Depends totally on the manufacturer and what they chose to load a particular case as.

As previously stated......."Go with the specs on the box" not the height of the brass. Which BTW is "paper thin" on a shotshell and adds no structural integrity to the case.

JM2c