Higher brass matters?

[Paul053]

Hi I recently picked up some Federal flight control 00 buck as well as some Hornady TAP, which has Hornady's version of flight control. Despite both being high brass 00 buck, the Hornady's TAP has a higher brass than the Federal. Both are full power buck so is a higher brass more indicative of a higher amount of powder? Thanks.

[bigbearbear]

Don't look at the brass, look at the load data on the box of the shells. It'll tell you the velocity of the buckshot. The higher the number, the more azz whopping and shoulder bruising it'll be.

[anti]

Well, that's a general rule of thumb, but if it's just a little bit higher then it doesn't necessarily mean much.

[CK_32]

Not as much as people think. Quality of ammo is what you look for. High brass just happens to be used for many quality shot shells. So people make the assumption if it's high brass it's good.


Focus more on the ammo it self and how it runs in your gun well. But if it's high brass you have a better chance of it being better than most low brass stuff.

[003]

Brass height on shogun shells has nothing to do with the load power factor. While some ammunition companies do load the more powerful loads in high brass shells, it is more custom and a sales technique than any real need. As an example, Winchester target loads are low brass, while Winchester buckshot is high brass. Strictly cosmetics, and what many shooters have come to expect. Given the quality of components today, shotgun shells made of 100% plastic are available and work quite well.

[wweigle]

003 above answered your question completely and accurately. Makes no difference.

[NapalmCheese]

Just to reiterate, it makes no difference.

My understanding is that high brass (not high base) shells were used in the period of paper shells to keep higher power loads (i.e. shells loaded with more bulk smokeless powder, which is quite a bit more bulky than current smokeless) from burning through the paper hull.

This is not a concern anymore with modern ammunition, but tradition keeps the practice going with ammo manufacturers.

[Huntsprig]

As others have said, there was a reason for it at one time, now it is tradition, no real need.

It is like having the dram equivalent on the shell boxes.

As a general rule on 12 GA. bird shot 1.25 oz. and more of shot is in a high brass shell, less than that is low brass.

[Brd_Hntr]

Keep in mind you can see the height of the brass on a shotgun shell and know when you are looking at a high or low velocity shell. Most shotgun shells are not marked beyond the size of the shot, so the brass height gives additional information about the load. The strength of a modern shotshell is in the wall thickness of the hull. The brass head is not needed for strength. When reloading shotshells the design of the hull, not the brass height determines the limits.

[b.thomas]

. Both are full power buck so is a higher brass more indicative of a higher amount of powder? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Nope................back about forty some years ago my dad used Double A hulls (low brass target loads) for re-loading 1 3/8 to 1 1/2 ounce of lead shot, for 2 3/4" short mag duck/goose loads. These were originally 1 to 1 1/8 ounce trap and/or skeet ammo.
Pop made thousands of them................all low brass/mag loads....................... and worked just fine!

[Thefeeder]

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I don't know where or how it started, but there is so much misinformation about shotgun shells on this forum.

[Huntsprig]

I don't know where or how it started, but there is so much misinformation about shotgun shells on this forum.

Educate us.

[Thefeeder]

Educate us.

what do you want to know about shotgun shells

[Huntsprig]

Educate us.

what do you want to know about shotgun shells

Well, I could nitpick some things on this thread, but the I main thing I object to is this.

Keep in you can see the height of the brass on a shotgun shell and know when you are looking at a high or low velocity shell.

[NoNOS67]

Well, I could nitpick some things on this thread, but the I main thing I object to is this.

I think that was a generalization, not a statement of fact. High velocity field loads often have high brass hulls, but it is by no means a requirement.