shotgun capacities?

[ohsmily]

So, on the Fed side it would be OK. But on the State side no? If the max capacity was Ten rounds or less then it should be OK right?
The Cali. rule says "pistol grip with a fixed capacity of more than Ten rounds"
So if it has the fixed stock with no other "evil features" it would comply right?

Sorry for being so confused.

If it is a semi auto shotgun with a FIXED stock, then it can have a pistol grip. If it has BOTH a pistol grip and folding or adjustable stock, then it is an assault weapon.

[louscamaro91]

the federal assualt ban does not apply to cali right? i thought it was sunsetted

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the federal assualt ban does not apply to cali right? i thought it was sunsetted

Yes. Does not apply.
The federal AWB "sunseted" and is no longer effect.

However...
922r parts game is to be in compliance with the "sporting purpose" of imported firearms.
922r did not "sunset".

[AJAX22]

There is no 10 round limit for shotguns.

The Winchester 1300 defender will hold something like 13 aguilla mini shells in the standard tube. (and will reliably cycle them)

the 10 round limit is only for semi auto rifles.

You could in theory (IIRC) have a 30 round fixed mag semi auto shotgun so long as it didn't have a pistol grip and a folding stock.

You would have had to have had it before the year 2000 however.

[Quiet]

10 round limit applies to shotguns, except lever-action shotguns.

Anything above 10 rounds would consititue a large capacity magazine.

Extending the capacity of a currently exisiting shotgun to over 10 rounds, would be manufacturing a large capacity magazine.

CA Penal Code 12020
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

[getafterit]

So then...a Binelli M4 with a FIXED pistol grip stock and a 7 round tube + 1 in the chamber for a grand total of 8 rounds with NO OTHER "evil" features would be OK as long as the total out of country parts count was 10 or less parts? Am I on track?

ps. this is info for a future purchase.

[getafterit]

Damn, I thought my wife confused me...these gun laws are mind boggling

[AJAX22]

None of that applies if you had it before the ban

If it held 11 or more rounds before 2000 then its good to go

10 round limit applies to shotguns, except lever-action shotguns.

Anything above 10 rounds would consititue a large capacity magazine.

Extending the capacity of a currently exisiting shotgun to over 10 rounds, would be manufacturing a large capacity magazine.

CA Penal Code 12020
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:
(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

[Quiet]

So then...a Binelli M4 with a FIXED pistol grip stock and a 7 round tube + 1 in the chamber for a grand total of 8 rounds with NO OTHER "evil" features would be OK as long as the total out of country parts count was 10 or less parts? Am I on track?

ps. this is info for a future purchase.

Yes.

None of that applies if you had it before the ban

If it held 11 or more rounds before 2000 then its good to go

True that.

[getafterit]

OK, now that I/we figured that out. Where can I get the parts to bring the total out of country parts to Ten or less? And would making my own parts count? ei. replacing the hand guard or the sights etc...

[BLACK LION]

HMMM

I own a benelli supernova tactical that came with a 4+1 capacity...it is actually reduced to 2 rounds for hunting compliance or something when shipped to ca. I had to remove the red plug from the mag tube to increase it to a 5 shot capacity. my benelli is a pump action with a pistol grip and a fixed stock...I increased the capacity to 8+1 with the TAC-STAR mag extension tube.... if you get the aguila minishells you can fit 12+1 (outside ca of course)....the extension tube is easy to install and does pertrude a little past the muzzle but does not affect anything....so far I have had zero malfunctions

[BLACK LION]

There is no 10 round limit for shotguns.

The Winchester 1300 defender will hold something like 13 aguilla mini shells in the standard tube. (and will reliably cycle them)

the 10 round limit is only for semi auto rifles.

You could in theory (IIRC) have a 30 round fixed mag semi auto shotgun so long as it didn't have a pistol grip and a folding stock.

You would have had to have had it before the year 2000 however.

so i can legally stuff my 8 round extension tube in my pump action benelli with as many "minishells" as it will fit???? it fits 12 ..... only problem i had with those is the action biting them and not wanting to let go...i was speed shooting tho

[ohsmily]

None of that applies if you had it before the ban

If it held 11 or more rounds before 2000 then its good to go

Uh, if it is a fixed magazine over 10 rounds, then you would have had to register it in 2000 or it is currently an unreg'ed assault weapon.

[what2be]

Uh, if it is a fixed magazine over 10 rounds, then you would have had to register it in 2000 or it is currently an unreg'ed assault weapon.

But this only applies to Rifles, correct? I was under the assumption shotguns and pistols were exempt from registration. Im I wrong?

[Bigugly]

My brain hurts