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  • ZapThyCat
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 2610

    Rock Salt Shells - Legal?

    I sure would like some Rock Salt Shells, but I'm not totally sure they're legal. I have no reason to think they're not, but it's worth checking on these things.

    Does anyone have a reloader that can make some of these? It would be nice to have some less-than-lethal rounds that sure would put a hurt on the bad guy....
    ~Jarrod~
  • #2
    G17GUY
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2006
    • 2343

    Just hand load some; These days they could be more of a legal problem more than anything if you ask me.
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    • #3
      moulton
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 2788

      Pro-tip: Dead people don't sue.....use buckshot
      Originally posted by Soldier415
      If you come to my house at 8am to give me pamphlets, I will poop on your shoes.
      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      Not everyone is so smart.
      We need people who work at McDonalds too you know...

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      • #4
        Crusader
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 2995

        The Box-O-Truth did a test with rocksalt shells, and if I remember correctly, they only punched holes in paper at about 5-10 feet, and even then it was only a couple holes. Basically they're completely ineffective.

        I've heard of rocksalt shells being used during the early 20th century, but as far as I can tell, they're useless. Or rocksalt was on roids back in 1926.

        But as said before, if you really want them, you can hand load them.

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        • #5
          BillCA
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 3821

          Rock salt shells are part urban-legend and part truth. Some farmers did keep a few loaded like that to impart "wisdom" to youngsters (teens) using their lands for partying and carousing. At close range it'll sting like the dickens and at closer range get under the skin. And just the fact that Farmer John popped off a round was enough to convince young hooligans to take flight.

          Downside today:
          1. Trouble from the DA. If it wasn't a life threatening situation, you were still discharging a firearm, likely without being able to claim self-defense.

          2. The DA can still classify it as a "deadly weapon" even loaded with rock salt because it fits the definition (projectiles, exploding gas, etc.)

          3. As our training indicates, the only time you should use a firearm in in lawful self-defense. Not to "scare off" an intruder or give that back yard tresspasser "a lesson". Using rock-salt loads can be construed as wanting to "punish" someone outside of lawful self-defense.

          If you want LTL loads, PMC, Federal and several other companies load rubber-ball buckshot. They're expensive though. (For that money, you should get buckshot-sized superballs! )

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          • #6
            ViPER395
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2007
            • 7848

            What about those 12-gauge pepper rounds?

            I saw them listed somewhere. Whats the deal with those?
            Originally posted by Rainbow Warrior
            Liberals didn't invent douchebaggery but they certainly perfected it.

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            • #7
              Ballistic043
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1704

              Originally posted by BillCA

              3. As our training indicates, the only time you should use a firearm in in lawful self-defense. Not to "scare off" an intruder or give that back yard tresspasser "a lesson".
              well, personally if an intruder is inside my house, you should know there will be a gun close by. if it means putting the sights between his eyes and scaring him off, then good, get off my property. he can call the cops if he wants to afterward

              "officer, i broke into this guys house and he pointed a gun at me...."


              i think you should re-iterate your saying to "the only time you should DISCHARGE a firearm..."
              Last edited by Ballistic043; 07-06-2008, 6:36 AM.

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              • #8
                -hanko
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jul 2002
                • 14174

                Originally posted by ZapThyCat
                It would be nice to have some less-than-lethal rounds that sure would put a hurt on the bad guy....
                Wrong philosophy for home defense

                -hanko
                True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                • #9
                  Beelzy
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 9224

                  Rock salt loads may be construed as "cruel and unusual".

                  Beanbags are however politically correct. I keep a beanie for the first round
                  then buck for the rest. I'll be aiming for the head so even a bean bag will
                  incapacitate if I don't wish to kill the invader.

                  Dead criminals don't sue, but their loser next of kin does.
                  "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                  • #10
                    Rob454
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11254

                    Originally posted by moulton
                    Pro-tip: Dead people don't sue.....use buckshot

                    Youre right. but their families do.

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                    • #11
                      BlackDrop50
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1023

                      Rubber Buckshot??

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                      • #12
                        sorensen440
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 8612

                        Dead men tell no tails in court
                        Its preferred to be the only witness
                        "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #13
                          Explicit
                          Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 209

                          I don't think i would want to shoot salt out of my shotgun. I would think that would screw up the barrel if not cleaned right?
                          Selling Knoxx Cop Stock ( For Mossberg 500/590 )

                          http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...05#post8967905

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                          • #14
                            sorensen440
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 8612

                            Originally posted by BlackDrop50
                            Rubber Buckshot??
                            I have a box of s&b rubber ball rounds that I purchased as a curiosity
                            man would that hurt !
                            went through a piece of plywood at 10 yards
                            "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                            • #15
                              Harbinger
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1152

                              Originally posted by Beelzy
                              I'll be aiming for the head so even a bean bag will
                              incapacitate if I don't wish to kill the invader
                              After you've been jostled awake by breaking glass, scrambled for your gun, can't find the light, half (or un-) dressed, disoriented... you meet a silhouette, running for you in the hallway. You have 1/500th of a second to fire.

                              Sure, I can see a carefully aimed shot at the head. I can see it missing, hitting the wall, his leg, his shoulder and only pissing him off as he takes your shotgun away in the ensuing struggle.

                              As gun owners, we can envision all sorts of awesome optimum scenarios for self defense. The only one you're going to get is the one you don't suspect.

                              Don't mess around with less-than-lethal.

                              Mike


                              Join the NRA!!

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