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  • jason8055
    Banned
    • Oct 2012
    • 825

    Thinking about a shotgun....

    So, I'm thinking about either a...

    including my view on the negatives and positives

    Saiga 12 or

    +semi-auto
    +possibly can be converted into auto?
    +huge mags
    +can break it down into parts? just like my Saiga 762 and I'm familiar with it
    -expensive ($800+)
    -doesnt have the pump sound (love that)
    -probably less reliable, I've seen shells get lodged in saiga 12's before, this could be human error??
    -longer than i'd like for a self defense gun?? is the OAL longer than 18" rem?

    Remington 870
    +cheaper($350+)
    +has the pump action shotty sound (GTFO of my house!)
    +looks better IMO


    So what yall think about this? Anybody here own a Saiga 12...? Seems like most of you probably own a pump action and semi. Also, is Saiga 12 legal in CA?

    Thanks
  • #2
    paratroop
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1743

    Originally posted by jason8055
    So, I'm thinking about either a...

    including my view on the negatives and positives

    Saiga 12 or


    +possibly can be converted into auto?


    Thanks
    Umm? NOPE
    Originally posted by Marcus von W.
    Is that banjo music I hear?
    "Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.
    "Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.
    First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.
    Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story.

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    • #3
      Moemoe1
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1571

      You want to convert a semi auto saiga 12 into auto?? Lol hope you don't live in California

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      • #4
        Toyman321
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1620

        So the sound the gun makes when racked is a major factor in the decision making process now? I've been doing it wrong

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        • #5
          -hanko
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by Toyman321
          So the sound the gun makes when racked is a major factor in the decision making process now? I've been doing it wrong
          That saves on ammo...you don't even need to load it.

          Stupid newbie crap.

          Next thing somebody's gonna' recommend bird shot for home defense.
          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

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          • #6
            Mr. Gillious
            Banned
            • Nov 2011
            • 1549

            Just get a VEPR 12

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            • #7
              12ga
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 273

              Saiga 12 or

              -+semi-auto
              +possibly can be converted into auto?
              +huge up to 10 round mags
              +can break it down into parts? just like my Saiga 762 and I'm familiar with it
              -expensive ($800+)
              -doesnt have the pump sound (love that)
              -probably less reliable, I've seen shells get lodged in saiga 12's before, this could be human error??
              -longer than i'd like for a self defense gun?? is the OAL longer than 18" rem?-don't know


              Remington 870
              +cheaper($350+)
              +has the pump action shotty sound (GTFO of my house!)
              +looks better IMO
              +pump action RELIABILITY!
              +magazine can be topped off between shots
              +if you are into making your guns look "cool", then you can put pistol grips, telescoping stocks or other tacitcool features on it.

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              • #8
                mossy
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2007
                • 7403

                Think about a Mossberg 500 or 590. Then think no more and buy one. You will be happy.
                best troll thread in calguns history
                http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                • #9
                  jgraham7897
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 682

                  I pick up my 500 combo in 8 1/2 hours!

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                  • #10
                    Superfreak
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 71

                    Mossberg 590a1 - Get whichever option suits you.

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                    • #11
                      rubbman
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2013
                      • 652

                      you need one of these!
                      Last edited by rubbman; 08-01-2015, 4:34 PM.
                      I once pondered over the debate of 9mm vs. .40, then I was introduced to .38 super and 10mm and forgot all about it.

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                      • #12
                        m16
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 2527

                        I used to own several 870's and one S12.

                        I currently own several 870's.
                        Marine Raider Foundation

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                        • #13
                          CrippledPidgeon
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1765

                          Originally posted by jason8055
                          Saiga 12
                          -doesnt have the pump sound (love that)


                          Remington 870
                          +has the pump action shotty sound (GTFO of my house!)
                          You do realize that if you keep a round in the chamber, you don't need to rack the pump on an 870 when an intruder is in the house, right? And if you didn't keep a round chambered, you'd still need to rack the Saiga, which would sound pretty much like a pump... And in between shots, no one will be able to hear the pump anyway...

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                          • #14
                            diverwcw
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 2693

                            Remington 870, all the way!
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                            NRA Instructor: Pistol, Personal Protection in the Home, Range Safety Officer

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                            • #15
                              Lead Waster
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 16650

                              Originally posted by Toyman321
                              So the sound the gun makes when racked is a major factor in the decision making process now? I've been doing it wrong

                              Sent from my XT875 using Tapatalk 2
                              So an iPod with a speaker will work!


                              OP, I suggest the 870. It just seems more practical and handier. Not as awesome as a Saiga semi shotgun, but reliable and smooth. Why deal with magazines? Need more shells, shove them in the gun on the move.
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