Keltec KSG - Unethical!

[Quiet]

I would pass. 3 broken shotguns in one video.

Here's another review of it.

[stix213]

Raising the price of the KSG isn't exactly cancelling and relaunching it. Companies change prices of products they sell all the time.

[k1dude]

Yes, those are the 2 well known bad reviews of the UTS 15. I can produce just as many good reviews.

I can also produce just as many good and bad reviews of the KSG.

Hell, I can produce just as many bad and good reviews of the 1911, the AR, the AK, and Glock.

[far from tactical]

I actually seen the Ksg at my lgs for north of 1500

[k1dude]

I actually seen the Ksg at my lgs for north of 1500

Wow! You actually SAW one! I've been waiting for years and still haven't actually even SEEN one.

[21SF]

If after all that you still want one you are an idiot (not directed at anyone)

[Volksgrenadier]

Get money back. Buy a Remington 870. Rejoice.

[DavidR310]

If after all that you still want one you are an idiot (not directed at anyone)

I still want one....






....so I can post it for sale for $3000 in the marketplace

[Oldmandan]

Welcome to supply and demand, if Keltec was charging $895 msrp and everyone was reselling them for $1300-1500, why shouldn't they raise the price to capture more of the market and take it away from flippers

Ferrari has been doing the same thing for years...works for them as long as they keep making products people want.

^^^While this is true.

The reason many companies don't do this, is that it invites competition.

Consumers are only looking for a perceived good product, at a perceived
good price. They are not brand loyal, if that criteria is met.

Kel-tec owns this market right now (if they could actually produce them anyway). By raising their price so high, any company who could not normally compete with them on price and product, now has a reason to develop and bring a product to market at a good price. That will take sales away from Kel-tec, and possibly invite a better product into the market.

Hopefully someone who can actually produce firearms will take the bull by the horns on this one.

Kel-tec has essentially shot themselves in the foot on this one... pun intended.

Ferrari has invited competition from their prices also, there are so many small sportscar manufactureres now, I could not count them all. The difference is Ferrari has stayed true to their roots in F1 and sportscar racing and has stayed on top in those fields to keep their name in high regard. Kel-tec will not have the money nor the means to market against any of the big firearm manufacturers. They played their cards like amateurs.

[k1dude]

If after all that you still want one you are an idiot (not directed at anyone)

You probably aren't old enough to remember all the bad reviews and bad press that the Glock received when it was first introduced. You wouldn't believe the vitriol. The initial reviews were horrendous with repeated reports of failure. How has Glock worked out? Time has obviously resolved any misgivings. Time will tell about the UTS.

So far, UTAS has stood behind their product regarding any problems that have come to light. The problem with NutnFancy's gun has been resolved with current production and they have offered to retrofit any problematic shotguns that are still out there. I have no idea when FPSRussia's shotguns were manufactured. For all we know, they were from the same run that NutnFancy's was.

[Josh3239]

From what I heard, Kel-Tec for 2013 raised dealer prices to what was originally MSRP.

[Endless]

I was third in line at Turner's for the KSG. After a year and a half I ditched it and put the money into a new Ruger SP101 .22LR and a steal of an Ishapore. Don't regret it but I sure would like a KSG at some point. Maybe when Ruger introduces theirs.

Are you serious? KSG's around here go for like $900 bucks and I went with the new updated UTAS over it. Not sure why someone would wait more than 5 days for one. They didnt discontinue in Oregon, Washington, and Maine... I waited 3 days for mine.

[DavidR310]

Yes, those are the 2 well known bad reviews of the UTS 15. I can produce just as many good reviews.

I can also produce just as many good and bad reviews of the KSG.

Hell, I can produce just as many bad and good reviews of the 1911, the AR, the AK, and Glock.

Can you point me to any good reviews by people I might be aware of?

Thanks,

David

[k1dude]

Can you point me to any good reviews by people I might be aware of?

Thanks,

David

Check out this thread.

[Tri750]

You know, a buddy of mine has a KSG. retired LE. I dont get it. It kicks like a mule with 00 buck, kicks like a small mule with birdshot. In racking the slide one has to be very deliberate or you end up with an empty chamber. Also, the selector for the left or right tube is pretty sticky. For him it might be a novelty. Yea, I don't get it. I like my Mossy with Knoxx stock.