Semi-Auto Shotgun Capacity

[ajl2121]

Hello,

I was interested in purchasing a 12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun. What is the maximum capacity that I could find for a reliable shotgun? I am looking to spend less than $1,000 for just the weapon, and plan to install a flash-light to the forend.

Thanks

[randy]

10 rounds is the limit in the tube.

[SemiAutoSam]

Pertinent part in red.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2.php

Effective January 1, 2000, Senate Bill 23, Statutes of 1999, establishes new criteria for defining assault weapons based on generic characteristics. This bill allows and requires persons who own/possess firearms that fall under the new "assault weapon" definition to register those firearms with the Department of Justice during the one-year period between January 1, 2000 and December 31, 2000. Effective January 1, 2000, this bill adds Penal Code Section 12276.1 to the Penal Code as follows.

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
A thumbhole stock.
A folding or telescoping stock.
A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
A flash suppressor.
A forward pistol grip.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A folding or telescoping stock.
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. "Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.
The following definitions shall apply under this section:
"Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
"Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
"Antique firearm" means any firearm manufactured prior to January 1, 1899.
This section shall become operative January 1, 2000.

[vinny_land]

Mossberg 930 SPX

Its cheaper than a FNH SLP and half the price of a benelli m4.

[Quiet]

10 rounds is the limit in the tube.

Reminder that if it's foreign made, you have to play the fed 922r parts game if you change the stock 5 round limit to 10 rounds.

[aplinker]

Mossberg 930 SPX

Its cheaper than a FNH SLP and half the price of a benelli m4.

It's also been out for about 6 months and is a Mossberg semi-

I would suggest a Remington over it, at least for another few years.

The SLP is very nice and very reasonably priced.

A Benelli M1S90 can be had for about $900

The 5rd capacity change for foreign semis & 922(r) is such a bizarre thing. I don't think it's that clear cut. It also depends on their date of import.

[mymonkeyman]

Playing the 922(r) game for shotguns does not make sense because a shotgun is also subject to an identical "sporting purposes" limitation under the destructive device statute (the ATF explicitly interprets the 922(r) and DD sporting purposes to be the same test). Of course, unlike 922(r), there is no way to get around the DD limitation by playing the parts game. The only thing you would be resting your hope on is the ATF's decision to continually only deciding DD for shotguns prospectively (which is entirely left to the ATF's discretion, it could just get you prosecuted).

If you want to be reasonably safe, go Remington (10 rounds only though due to CA large-capacity magazine law).

Edit: I forgot to add, if you want to be real safe, don't have a shotgun cause the ATF could decide it's a DD on a whim.

[ajl2121]

So, there is a Remington Semi-Auto 12 gauge that hold 10 rounds of 2.75"?

[mymonkeyman]

So, there is a Remington Semi-Auto 12 gauge that hold 10 rounds of 2.75"?

Not that I know of. Remington 1100 Tac-4 holds 9.

[FatOnCoke]

Nothing from the factory will hold 10rds. Get a 10rd tube from Dave's metal works.

http://www.davesmetalworks.com/

The 10rd tube will be around 24" while most tactical barrels will give you 18". <<= stupid looking

Better solution:
Put 8 rounds in the tube + 1 in chamber + 1 free carrier = 10 rds

[Josh]

Edit: was wrong, the law specifically states it has to be attached to a lever action only.

[randy]

You can only load one on the carrier "ghost load" on a Benelli and then you have to modify the bolt assembly on a newer gun.

If you are looking for a ghetto blaster then an 18 or 20 inch barrrel. Remingtons require a longer tube to get in the same amount of rounds as a Benelli. The receiver length has something to do with that. I had a Rem Compition Master 22" barrel it would hold 8 in the tube and the tube was flush with the end of the barrel.

[lerroy1119]

A Benelli M1 but if you got more money I'd get the M4.

[ajl2121]

I currently have a Mossberg 500 8 shot (7 in the mag and 1 up top), and was looking to add another 12 gauge...Something that is SA that can hold the most in the magazine without being modified.

[duenor]

Valtro PM5. 7rnd detachable magazines, all-Italian smooth pump action, accurate, quick pointing, deadly to a fault. I've become convinced that it is superior to any Rem 870 or Moss 590, including those with Sidewinder kits installed. NOT CHEAP, though. For $1000 expect to get one gun with perhaps 3 magazines, and it would be a good deal. They are very hard to come by, and the magazines even more so. It took me years to put together a set for myself.