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  • UN3178
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    • Sep 2012
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    Last edited by UN3178; 01-27-2017, 3:55 PM.
  • #2
    Rukus
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 2387

    In the dark, how do you tell the difference between a thief and your wife/gf/drunk friend that you forgot was sleeping over?

    Nobody says you turn on the flashlight and wave it around like a beacon, it's used to identify a threat/innocent bystander. Hence why many tactical lights have the pressure switch, you only need to use it sparingly.

    If its truly light enough for you to see inside your house in the dark, remember that it goes both ways. Why would you not want the option of also having a temporary blinding light at your disposal?
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    • #3
      GNE
      Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 233

      Stop basing your home defense plan on movies where the commando seal operators wave around lights on their MP5s like lightsabers.

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      • #4
        dc2integra
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 912

        Just because you have a light on your shotgun doesn't mean your gonna be walking around the house with it on that would just be stupid you use it to identify the person.
        Last edited by dc2integra; 10-04-2012, 4:42 PM.

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        • #5
          dc2integra
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 912

          Originally posted by connorr931
          That is a good point. I understand having the option to identify a target if you needed to but if you were to ask most guys why they have a light on their gun their going to say something like "its so I can clear my house in the dark" not so they can make sure they don't accidentally shoot their dog instead of the intruder.
          The only way I would clear a house would be with a squad of infantry soldiers.

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          • #6
            AAShooter
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2010
            • 7188

            First, better to have a light and not use it than to need one and not have it.

            Second, load the gun before looking for the culprit/adversary.


            Finally, if you have every tried operating a shotgun tactically with a handheld light, you will wish you had an integrated one.
            Last edited by AAShooter; 10-04-2012, 5:28 PM.

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            • #7
              mcmikeblues7
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 1026

              trying to "scare away" someone with who has the intent to kill you is just as bad of an idea as clearing a room with a light

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              • #8
                m16
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2527

                A weapon light will help you maintain situational awareness in low-light scenarios.

                That might not be important to you, but it's important to me and many other shooters.
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                • #9
                  MXRider
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2927

                  Everything you posted is completely ridiculous on how a home invasion would be handled on your end with regard to racking a round, and how the light is used.

                  Take a low light class and learn how to handle situations in the dark.

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                  • #10
                    Yugo
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 8359

                    the light will blind a intruder and he will not be able to see you....I could see this being a double edged sword.
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                    • #11
                      Reductio
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1923

                      So I can see what the heck I'm shooting: it's a problem after the sun's gone down. Added bonus of blinding him temporarily with a few hundred lumens. Just because you heard a bump in the night doesn't mean you can go blowing holes in anything that moves in your house... ID'ing your target isn't an "option" to have, it's gun safety 101.
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                      • #12
                        mcmikeblues7
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 1026

                        Originally posted by connorr931
                        Please read my post very carefully. I dont know where you got the idea someone is trying to kill you. I am mainly talking about burglaries. If someone is trying to kill you you have a lot bigger problems.
                        so your plan is to confront a burglar with a weapon who has no intent to harm you and hope he is un-armed and hope he runs away
                        this choice is up to you but i don't think you are making the wise decision.

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                        • #13
                          rspar
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 882

                          Not sure about the light it would be going all over the place while firing and one hand cartwheeling. Got that from a training video called The Matrix.

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                          • #14
                            MXRider
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2927

                            Originally posted by connorr931
                            I would strongly disagree. Racking a round is a very good way to make your presence known. And I did not post anything as to how I would handle the situation with a light because I do not and will not use a light. The ways of using a light I described were for the purpose of showing how ridiculous they were which I guess you agree with. If you are the expert please tell us how you would handle the situation.
                            You have no idea what you are talking about. Tell me again how giving up your position will give you an advantage in a high stress situation.

                            The use of a weapon light is absolutely crucial when you need to identify your target and gain an advantage in a hostile environment.

                            Again, I highly recommend taking some training classes because you have no idea what you are talking about, or how to handle a situation like this and it could be the difference between life and death.

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                            • #15
                              MXRider
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 2927

                              Originally posted by connorr931
                              I have no idea why you keep making these assumptions or where you get them from. Of course you would have no idea if he is trying to kill you or not and yes of course you would hope he is unarmed and he runs away. But if he isn't you must be prepared. First you assume the burglars intent is to kill (sounds more like an assassin) then your assume he has no intent to harm? You seem to lean towards one extreme or another. It is impossible to know an intruders intents. Please stop thread crapping.
                              If someone broke into your home, assume they are hostile and mean you and your family harm. The person or persons should be met with extreme force. If you don't have this mindset, and the training to back it up, you risk becoming another statistic on home invasions that turned into a murder.

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