My new kel tec ksg headed to the range for testing.

[Zimz]

How did the AFG2 work on the pump? It doesn't look like much room to grip with the bottom being flat.

[menomanuel]

The afg2 fits perfectly almost gripping the entire rail.

[Capt Jack]

Haters gonna hate!

OP: Nice new toy, and good on you for being able to afford the toys you want. Money and Value are relative, i.e. if you make $10k a month then overspending on a toy is fine! Now, if you make $1k per month then you would call someone a dumb***** for "wasting" money.

I guess we know what income bracket some of these haters are in...

[-hanko]

Haters gonna hate!

OP: Nice new toy, and good on you for being able to afford the toys you want. Money and Value are relative, i.e. if you make $10k a month then overspending on a toy is fine! Now, if you make $1k per month then you would call someone a dumb***** for "wasting" money.

I guess we know what income bracket some of these haters are in...

Comprehension. Fail
Logic. Fail
Not being creative enough to state an opinion in other than a hackneyed internet saying. Fail

So, you're saying that anyone would not pay msrp + 600 + tax + fees for a KSG is in an inadequate income bracket?

I've fired a box or 3 though a friends gun, decided it wasn't my style, and that's about it for me on the KSG. He got his for ~$900 before tax at lgs.

Without getting into great detail, I do have multiples of op's purchase price in double guns.

Take it off-line if you'd like...op asked for opinions on his shotgun, not on other posts...at least that's what I understood when I read his post.

-hanko

[44fred]

I don't think that it is really all that bad. the last firearm i purchased was shipped to my FFL, but the guy forgot that letter, so they couldnt start my DROS. It took the shipping FFL 10 minutes to get the paperwork done, and a copy sent. Of course that extra step shouldnt be necessary anyways, but it isn't that difficult.

It really is not difficult at all!

Some out of state FFL's just wont go through the process based on principal. Well, I say they aren't very bright. Anybody that does business on the internet, in this economy, is foolish to eliminate a 35+ million population state from their client list. Go on gun broker and see all the dealers that won't ship here. I just don't get it. Many do get it and will ship here with a smile on their face knowing others won't.

[Specific Pacific]

Interesting firearm. Waiting to see the kinks Kel Tec is going to work out in the next couple years. I see feeding being the major issue. Plus all the plastic... *shivers*

Has anyone on the thread done a major field test?

[menomanuel]

Will be headed the range tommorrow for more testing of the ksg.
250 rounds 2 3/4 mil surplus 00 buckshot .
At least I'll have a this gun if sb 249 passes .(no thanks to dictator senator yee)

[JackRydden224]

It really is not difficult at all!

Some out of state FFL's just wont go through the process based on principal. Well, I say they aren't very bright. Anybody that does business on the internet, in this economy, is foolish to eliminate a 35+ million population state from their client list. Go on gun broker and see all the dealers that won't ship here. I just don't get it. Many do get it and will ship here with a smile on their face knowing others won't.

I don't understand people who turn down business because it is too much of a hassle. They must be making too much money else where. Californians have more spending power and buy more guys than any other state (I think). I recently sold a rifle on gunbroker and shipping it was just dropping it off at UPS. The girl didn't even ask me for the buyer's FFL info....

Back to the topic.

OP you planning on making a video of you pumping 15 shells and destroying targets?

[k1dude]

If they come out with a semi-auto version, I'll be all over it.

[jyo]

Paying over retail is actually somewhat common here in Kalifornia---this is the price we pay for allowing the pols to ram a bunch of stupid "safety" and paperwork laws down our throats. I have paid a premium to get my HK P30 and 45C, but don't regret it as I will be keeping and enjoying them. That doesn't mean I like paying too much...

[menomanuel]

A little off topic ,
Don't forget to contact senator Leland yee and voice your opinion about sb 249!

[Lifeon2whls]

I want to see you take this thing and do some clay shooting with it...

Awesome shotgun!

[Mesa Tactical]

We've had our KSG since November or December, and two other folks got to shoot it before we ever did (OCSD and Recoil Magazine). On Saturday we finally got a chance to shoot it at Burro Canyon.





Recoil is sharp. We chose to shoot mostly target loads. At the SHOT Show I tried to hook up the Limbsaver people with Kel-Tec. The latter are too busy to worry about buttpads right now, but it would be easy for Limbsaver to produce a replacement pad if they got the CAD files from Kel-Tec. Dunno where they are with that. An integrated Limbsaver or Decelerator pad would be a big improvement on this platform. I bet almost half of KSG owners would plop down $40 for a Limbsaver replacement pad if they knew one was available.

We had a couple jams, the sort of thing I would expect from a pump where the ejection port is also the loading port. The jams, as with similar jams with Remingtons and Mossbergs, are down to operator error. The difference is with the KSG they take more effort to clear.

The shotgun is very easy to handle, reasonably accurate and fun to shoot. It's a little unwieldy because the manual of arms is so different from what one is used to. If operators were simply to train for a few hours with the platform I'm sure they would get used to it, and would appreciate the 14 shots between reloads. For now we found ourselves pulling the shotgun out away from our shoulders so we could look in the loading port to check status.

Kel-Tec is making NFA law enforcement versions available that are even shorter than the commercial model. I don't know why; the commercial model is already pretty compact and handy.

None of us tried shooting it with one hand.

[tvfreakarms]

Its weird how people with no money or just pure hate would belittle this guy cause over paid something. If he wants well buy all means. Have fun.
I would like this in the near future

[aippi]

The Money is not the major issue with this thing. Kel-tec is famous for not keeping up with demand. Add the fact that the first version of many weapons from any manufacturer may have issues. Combine these two facts and what happens when his weapon has to go back for service. How long do you think it will take them to get parts and fix it? One month? Three Months? A year? Kel-tech can't even put them on the gun store racks so how much faith do you have in their abiltiy to repair or replace one?

There is a group of people that has to have the latest greatest thing and the price they are paying for a weapon with a Dealer cost under $550 is proof of this. They don't think about anything but gotta have it.

Fine, it is their money. They are the test dummies for you guys that want this weapon. If it is a what it is touted to be then in a couple years it will still be here and will be going for it's intended MSRP.

However, I predict it will find it's place in the gun safes along with all those other latest greatest things.