Winchester ammo sucks!...?

[350skylark]

I went to shoot clays today and i bought winchester universal target load 7 1/2 instead of the federal i usually buy because it was out. i Had about 200 shots threw my 870 and has performed flawlessly untill today, Im honestly estimating 75 of the 100 rounds i shot failed to eject on the first pull of the receiver. 2 of the shells actually broke the rim when trying to eject and i had to disassemble the barrel and pry it out with a knife. Is this something wrong with my gun or just the ammo?

[TacticalPlinker]

Sounds like an extractor issue. Are the shells actually being extracted from the chamber?

EDIT: There is a difference between extract and eject... Watch these;

[350skylark]

sorry i did mean extract the first video is exactly what happened. Like i said it was with the Winchester and not the federal is this common? or is it something with my gun.

[rromeo]

I have heard for years about similar problems with Winchester Universal in Remington shotguns. I always grab the Federal or Remington bulk packs, so it's not firsthand knowledge.

[CK_32]

but its not the ammo... its the unreliable 870!!

[rromeo]

It most likely is QC at Remington on their Express line. You never hear of this with a Wingmaster.

[aippi]

You people are something else. The OP clearly stated he has no issues with other ammo and it is a well known fact that Winchester Universal is crap. So you either you can't read, can't comprehend are you are simply obtuse.

OP - you clearly stated your weapon has performed flawless unitil you bought this cheap ammo and have to be able to relate the issue to ammo. You answered your own question and simply gave these other guys a chance to bash the 870 which they do from no knowledge base what so ever.

[wjc]

Hmmm...I use Winchester Target X (white box) and have never had an issue in either of my shotguns.

Stick with Federal if that works for you...

[alfred1222]

You people are something else. The OP clearly stated he has no issues with other ammo and it is a well known fact that Winchester Universal is crap. So you either you can't read, can't comprehend are you are simply obtuse.

OP - you clearly stated your weapon has performed flawless unitil you bought this cheap ammo and have to be able to relate the issue to ammo. You answered your own question and simply gave these other guys a chance to bash the 870 which they do from no knowledge base what so ever.

Wow, what a reasonable and unbiased argument from the guy who is a Remington Armorer

I also had no idea that Winchester ammo was any cheaper than the federal bulk packs. OP, I would have the gun looked at, but that's just me. I don't shoot my 870, are any pump, anymore. They're less reliable than my semi-autos and O/U's

[prc77]

You people are something else. The OP clearly stated he has no issues with other ammo and it is a well known fact that Winchester Universal is crap. So you either you can't read, can't comprehend are you are simply obtuse.

OP - you clearly stated your weapon has performed flawless unitil you bought this cheap ammo and have to be able to relate the issue to ammo. You answered your own question and simply gave these other guys a chance to bash the 870 which they do from no knowledge base what so ever.

obtuse? dang Aippi, whats with the $5 words.

[TacticalPlinker]

I really don't think it is the ammo. I've put about 40-45 rounds through my 870 (it's new) of cheap Winchester #7 & 1/2 without a single issue... So I have a simple solution. Try using some different ammo. Different types and brands. See what you find. If you have extraction problems with that ammo as well, you have an extractor problem. If not, try again with the Winchester.

A second solution is to clean your gun better. Extractors on all firearms can cause problems if not properly cleaned. Check your extractor and see if it moves, or if its clogged up with crap. Also see if there is spring tension on the extractor, as the spring on your extractor could be the problem.

Simple solutions without fan boy bulls%%t.

[shellslinger]

You're not the only one with that issue. I bought some winchester universal from walmart (100 rd value pack) and my 590a1 had issues extracting them as well. They would extract, but sometimes the shell seemed to be stuck in the chamber and I would have to rack it back harder than normal. With federal or remington no issues, extracts like butter.

[bsg]

i'm thinking the problem is the Winchester Universal; shoot the Federal that has worked for you, and you'll get your answer.

[TacticalPlinker]

You're not the only one with that issue. I bought some winchester universal from walmart (100 rd value pack) and my 590a1 had issues extracting them as well. They would extract, but sometimes the shell seemed to be stuck in the chamber and I would have to rack it back harder than normal. With federal or remington no issues, extracts like butter.

That can happen with any gun and any ammo. Why? It's called expansion. With a shotgun, the shell is plastic and expands easily. Nothing wrong with the gun or the ammo, it's normal.

[-hanko]

I concur with JD...nice ownage as usual.

OP stated no extraction issues with his gun UNTIL he tried the new ammo.

Checking the extractor wouldn't hurt, but I'm still thinking ammo.

-hanko