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"There is only one tactical principle which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wound, death, and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."
- General George S. Patton, Jr.Comment
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The Wilson finish is called Armor-Tuff and it's waaay more durable than parkerizing (I have had both done). A parkerized gun must be kept oiled or it will rust, and it it is only a little better in that respect than a well-oiled blued gun. Finishes such as Duracoat, Armor-Tuff, Ceracoat, NP3 (which is the absolute best, but very expensive), etc. are pretty much maintenance-free. I believe Wilson will Armor-Tuff an entire 12 gauge shotgun for under $250. Well worth it, IMO.Comment
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Got mine done at Kerley's Hunting in Cupertino. It cost a pretty penny but was it all worth it in the end cause I knew harry knew a reputable person to get the job done that I could trust. They had it completely blasted, got some pits out of it (and it was rough pitting believed to be like yours a sherrif trade in) and cerakoted it flat black. It looked just as good as new and tough as hell. Pretty much was ready right when I received it. I took it there after duracoating another 870 that still had a little shine to it and wanted a completely non-reflective finish. If you plan on keeping it for a while cerakote the gun.Comment
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It is protective, if oiled properly (but, then again, that is true of any finish). IMO, if you are prepared to spend $200+, next to NP3 Plus and NP3 (which will cost more than the gun), Armor-Tuff is about the best finish to put on a shotgun.Comment
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Hows about just getting some bare metals and get: one parkerized, one duracoated and one cerakoted or whatever. Then stick them in a salt water bath for two days, pull it out, and let it sit for a day or two to dry out. Then grab a rock and scratch each surface stick them back in the salt bath repeat the process to determine what works best for you. That's what I did.... Obviously I chose the cerakote. For those reasons: 1) not too thick of a coat but pretty scratch resistant compared to the other coats and it filled the little voids and pits 2) passed the rust test 3) self lubricated 4) color is so damn sexy in jet black. 2 years in no flaking, rusting I just oil the bolt and inside of the barrel every once in a while. That's all the lube it needs.Comment
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Well, I'll stand by my "old fashioned finish" advice and say a polished blued, parkerized, heat blued, rust blued, or case colored finish is a better finish than the new "paint" finishes all the new generation wants.
They have been used for years by the best firearm manufacturers around the world. You will never see a painted shotgun from the finer manufacturers. Why?
Paint is paint. You can call it whatever you want. It's not a plating or a metal treatment. It's paint. A surface coating. Not a metal treatment/conditioner. And you guys don't put your guns through field/combat use. They're range guns just like the cruse/urban 4x4's.
At the end of the day, I don't care. Do what you want, It's your gun.
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When I am Elected President my first Executive Order will be to ban painting of shotguns.
What you say, I can't be president. Well, if that idiot we got now can then I can and I can be Prime Minister of England and King of Siam at the same time. I already have campaign slogans. "A Chicken in every pot and a Remington in every Gun Safe" and "Tip a Canoe and if the ex is in it let the B***h drown". More to come.JD McGuire, Owner
AI&P Tactical
Remington Law Enforcement Armorer
Mossberg LE Armorer
www.aiptactical.com
www.tacticalgunslings.com
If you're going to a gun fight, take a shotgun. If you can't take a shotgun, don't go.Comment
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Well, I'll stand by my "old fashioned finish" advice and say a polished blued, parkerized, heat blued, rust blued, or case colored finish is a better finish than the new "paint" finishes all the new generation wants.
They have been used for years by the best firearm manufacturers around the world. You will never see a painted shotgun from the finer manufacturers. Why?
Paint is paint. You can call it whatever you want. It's not a plating or a metal treatment. It's paint. A surface coating. Not a metal treatment/conditioner. And you guys don't put your guns through field/combat use. They're range guns just like the cruse/urban 4x4's.
At the end of the day, I don't care. Do what you want, It's your gun.
I'm going with AIP. I sorta contemplated the cerakote and all that other stuff and I'm old fashioned I guess. I actually like the look of a good worn pistol or shotgun, even rifle. But this thing is beat to hell and back. Still a smooth action and functions 100%, but when it starts to turn bronze like and has some rust, it has to be fixed.
I'm thinking of giving them a call to get an estimate and/or time for how long it'd take roughly ( I realize they may be booked).Comment
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Bless you, Sir.When I am Elected President my first Executive Order will be to ban painting of shotguns.
What you say, I can't be president. Well, if that idiot we got now can then I can and I can be Prime Minister of England and King of Siam at the same time. I already have campaign slogans. "A Chicken in every pot and a Remington in every Gun Safe" and "Tip a Canoe and if the ex is in it let the B***h drown". More to come.
OP - that "bronzing" is probably browning. And it's what blue guns do.
Anyway - a good park job is all you need. All the rest of the stuff is cosmetic.Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.
90% of winning is simply showing up.
"Let's not lose sight of how much we reduced our carbon footprint by telecommuting this protest." 383green
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Yea, I mean you only really notice under certain lighting but its all over. Theres very little rusting compared to "bronzing" or browning as you put it. Lately I've been shooting it more, I may have to pickup my first semi auto after this
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I'll try emailing AIP tonight and getting a turnaround time/estimate.Comment
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