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  • crackerman
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 2441

    Small Trap shooting rant.

    Just a rant on my trap shooting on Saturday at Prado.

    So I went out to Prado on Saturday to burn the last 2 tokens I have been holding onto and get out of the house. One thing I defiantly noticed is not to many people seem to know the rules of trap. Not a big deal but if you are going to play a game AT LEAST ASK ABOUT THE RULES. It was great to see the dad with his teens out there, but at least teach the emo kid proper form so he didn't keep beating himself in the cheek with the stock. Oh and maybe point out how the order goes and not just have him jump in line.

    TO the guys who couldn't figure out the voice trap ask, though for them I pulled the round.

    And finally learn to move after every 5 shots, I shouldn't have to count for all of us, but I did.

    That said I had a good time and tried to help people with the basic rules and a little bit of form help.

    I know, I know cool story and all that.

    No YSR not all trap shooters are fools

    and where is my cool starry bra pic?
    Last edited by crackerman; 01-10-2012, 2:36 AM.
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  • #2
    ysr_racer
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 12014

    Originally posted by crackerman
    That said I had a good time and tried to help people with the basic rules and a little bit of form help.

    No YSR not all trap shooters are fools

    I always help people with the rules of safety whether they want my help or not.

    This is our sport, and we need to keep each other safe. I never give shooting advice, unless asked.

    The biggest thing on sporting clays ranges is people loading more than two shells at a time.

    I don't care how many your gun holds, it's only two at a time on an SC range.

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    • #3
      BigDogatPlay
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 7362

      Originally posted by ysr_racer
      I always help people with the rules of safety whether they want my help or not.

      This is our sport, and we need to keep each other safe. I never give shooting advice, unless asked.

      The biggest thing on sporting clays ranges is people loading more than two shells at a time.

      I don't care how many your gun holds, it's only two at a time on an SC range.
      +1

      It's every shooter's responsibility to play the game safely. If someone is doing something unsafe on the line that I am shooting on, I'm going to nicely say something.

      Shooting advice... unless I am there specifically instructing or coaching, or I'm specifically asked, I keep my advice to myself.

      While I agree that it's pretty easy to keep track of how many you've fired at a station, if there is no puller then it's the squad leader's job to direct the changes, no?
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      • #4
        Charles4400
        Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 349

        So on public trap fields you end up joining in with others?

        Not familair with trap but thought you just get on a public field and play with who you came with...or do you just enter after a game with other people there and join in?

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        • #5
          Norsemen308
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1922

          general rules of Prado (read PRADO only)

          you only hold the field for one round if people are waiting

          if there are empty spots on the field they can be filled with others waiting (5 spots to a field)

          as a good sportsman...

          I always try to make sure if I dont have 5 people in my group I invite waiters to join...
          I always count to 5 adn switch. (many dont know there are any rules to trap).
          I always try to be nice and courteous to everyone Lord knows we need as many gun owners as possible..

          To OP i feel your pain but Prado on a saturday is a nightmare lol. Be happy there are more and more people out shooting with their kids then mad that there are to many newbies out there...
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          • #6
            Charles4400
            Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 349

            ^ good to know Norsemen thanks!

            Anyone else know if this is the same with Triple B's and Oak Tree?

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            • #7
              BigFatGuy
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 3176

              BBB's trap fields usually seem pretty empty. Most often I see one or two old guys taking up each field, then going home after a couple rounds. I've mostly been on Thursdays and Fridays, though. Can't speak for saturday.
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              • #8
                kimbrel425@yahoo.com
                Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 297

                Oh Prado kills me some times. It seems that lately there is always somebody teaching (I don't mind at all), but they aren't showing them the right way. It seems they always forget to rotate after 5 shots, even after being told it is time to rotate. I watched somebody shoot from the same spot 13 times, then decided to move. Then they think they are being screwed because they didn't get to shoot from all positions. Drives me crazy.

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                • #9
                  ysr_racer
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 12014

                  Originally posted by Charles4400
                  ^ good to know Norsemen thanks!

                  Anyone else know if this is the same with Triple B's and Oak Tree?
                  Charles4400 you've asked a lot of questions, and that's good. But come out to the range for a day and all will be answered.

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                  • #10
                    RayPDA
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 909

                    ah Prado - my 'home' range... +1 to the others' comments:

                    It does get frustrating sometimes, but as long as they're safe and not being idiots, It's all good - and if they're open to it, I'll let them know the finer points of how trap works As someone who tends to bring around a new shooter every so often: to a newcomer, it can be intimidating... proper guidance is key...give them enough info to be safe and follow the rules and format and get themselves shooting properly, but not too much that they overthink their shooting; the point is to learn and have some good, safe fun.

                    Usually, newcomers approach and do ask questions, especially if they're trying to figure out what to do- and I am happy to oblige.


                    Now, when people are talking excessively around the speakers, mishandling their guns, chambering prior to their turn or loading more than one, muzzling someone...and that one time when an entire group had placed ALL their tokens in the machine and kept going back and forth from the rack exchanging shotguns basically hogging field #2...then got into an altercation of words with the two people that were waiting for the field...then I get a bit ansy.


                    weekend mornings 8-930 are usually nice quiet times to go And yes, if there's open spots, I always ask if they don't mind if I shoot with them if it's me waiting, or I ask those waiting if they'd like to join in.
                    Last edited by RayPDA; 01-10-2012, 7:29 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Some Guy
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2112

                      Could someone point me in the direction of a video or write up of what to expect if I were to show up at a range to shoot clays, my experience with shooting flying things with a shotgun is limited to throwing and shooting at an informal range.
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                      • #12
                        ysr_racer
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 12014

                        Not sure what you're asking. First decide what you want to shoot, trap, skeet, or sporting clays.

                        Next find a range, show up, check in at the office, head out to the range.

                        The best thing is to go with someone you know that can show you the ropes, or tell them it's your first time there, and they'll help you out.

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                        • #13
                          dougolupski
                          Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 361

                          [QUOTE=BigDogatPlay;7816493While I agree that it's pretty easy to keep track of how many you've fired at a station, if there is no puller then it's the squad leader's job to direct the changes, no?[/QUOTE]

                          Agreed no matter the people or the thousands of dollars spent on guns, or even the Aston Martin that was in the dirt lot this weekend there is always a squad leader at our range.

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                          • #14
                            dougolupski
                            Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 361

                            Originally posted by Some Guy
                            Could someone point me in the direction of a video or write up of what to expect if I were to show up at a range to shoot clays, my experience with shooting flying things with a shotgun is limited to throwing and shooting at an informal range.
                            Hey if you wanna come up to Winchester gun club (santa barbara hills) on a Saturday or Sunday, my friends and I will show you the ropes. The range masters up there are pretty nice and always willing to teach you the ropes or help get your rounds on target.
                            Had my roommate shooting trap on Sat for the first time, after a round of poor clays the range master sorted him out and he finished his last few rounds with a respective 19-21 clays nailed per round.

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                            • #15
                              Charles4400
                              Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 349

                              Originally posted by ysr_racer
                              Charles4400 you've asked a lot of questions, and that's good. But come out to the range for a day and all will be answered.
                              Ya I know I'd like to get out more but with 21 mo. old twin boys its hard to find the time to go out shooting!

                              So I get to live vicariously through all of you guys and play armchair clay shooter on the forums lol!

                              I figure.... mine as well try to find out all I can on the forums so on the rare outings I actually get to go shoot, I'll know at least know in theory what I'm supposed to be doing!

                              But agree, I need to go out more...one of these days ysr!

                              (though I am commited to go out to Jordan and Coach Z's Skeet clinic and won't miss that lesson!)

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