Saiga 20k

[smurfette]

Is the Saiga 20k legal in CA? Do most of the gun stores carry it? If yes, which one?

[icee169]

Haven't seen a Saiga in 20 gauge although atlantic firearms had them in .410 gauge not to long ago. I also think the 20k has a shorter barrel and that would make it not legal in CA. Get a saiga 12. Great firearm and pretty easy to find in CA. Prices are dropping now that the shotgun ban scare drama with the doj is done. If you really want a 20k get a playstation and battlefield 3.

[smurfette]

that's why I think it's hard to find >< what's .410 gauge? is it in between 12 & 20?

yes, the k has a 19" barrel... I'm small, so I need a 20 guage with shorter barrel.. less weight.. I can't swing a 12 gauge with 28" barrel unless it's a light weight semi such as a Benelli Supersport @.@ my remington 870 tactical with Knoxx Specops stock's barrel is 18" and I can shoot it in most ranges in CA, but not sure about the Saiga...


how much does the Saiga 12 weight? how long is the barrel?

[shellslinger]

.410 is below 20 gauge. I believe that Saigas range from 19" to 22" barrels and the weight is somewhere between 7 to 8lbs unloaded.

[smurfette]

.410 is below 20 gauge. I believe that Saigas range from 19" to 22" barrels and the weight is somewhere between 7 to 8lbs unloaded.

8 ibs is too heavy for me. that's why i gave away my Benelli Nova 12 / 28 ><

[icee169]

Check out guns america.http://www.gunsamerica.com/941270391...a_20_gauge.htm You may have to find a middle man to have it made ca legal. Seems the 20 gauge isn't that popular. Give the 12 a try. You might find that it will work for you plus there are many more aftermarket parts for the 12. Good luck with you search.

[Nicoman]

how long is the barrel?

it's only 18'' if you do it right

[smurfette]

it's only 18'' if you do it right

Nice!

[smurfette]

I can't find any Saiga 20, is the 0.410 considerable?

[shellslinger]

.410's aren't bad at all. A good choice for those that are recoil limited, I'm sure the rounds are a lot lighter than 12 gauge and 20 gauge.

On a side note, the first Saiga shotguns were originally built with the .410 in mind. So can't go wrong there

[SDRider858]

I havent seen a 20ga in quite some time, but I would take a 410 anyday, those things are bad ***! What are you using it for? Clays? HD?

My female friends who try to use my Saiga 12 say it is a bit bulky at first, but torwards the end of the session they tend to gravitate to it haha.

Love my S12 =) If your ever in SD, your more than welcome to shoot it sometime.

[smurfette]

.410's aren't bad at all. A good choice for those that are recoil limited, I'm sure the rounds are a lot lighter than 12 gauge and 20 gauge.

On a side note, the first Saiga shotguns were originally built with the .410 in mind. So can't go wrong there

is it harder to break clays with a 0.410 than a 12 cuz the shotshells are smaller??

I havent seen a 20ga in quite some time, but I would take a 410 anyday, those things are bad ***! What are you using it for? Clays? HD?

My female friends who try to use my Saiga 12 say it is a bit bulky at first, but torwards the end of the session they tend to gravitate to it haha.

Love my S12 =) If your ever in SD, your more than welcome to shoot it sometime.

I held it at the gun show, and i felt it was a bit heavy.. i might not be able to swing comfortably enough to break clays with it...
hwo heavy is the 12? and how heavy is the 0.410?

hwo come u can shoot with the round magazine in CA? excuse my terms. i don't know most of the gun terms lol
yours looks good.. when did u get it? it comes with the pistol grip and detachable magazine?? I want one like that in 0.410.. where should I buy it? Thanks!

[shellslinger]

is it harder to break clays with a 0.410 than a 12 cuz the shotshells are smaller??

I dont have much experience with the .410 but I'm assuming that it's most likely that it is harder to hit clays with a .410 rather than a 12 or 20 gauge, just because you don't as many pellets as 12 or 20 gauge shell.

But with practice you probably wont notice the difference.



Just a little interesting video about the .410 shotgun shell.

[TheExpertish]

You can break clays with a .410. It's just more challenging. If you're just looking at shooting clays and are insisting on a 20 look at the Remington 870. IIRC, it's a bit less hefty than your Benelli you gave up. Either that or hit the gym and get some muscles girlie.

[smurfette]

I dont have much experience with the .410 but I'm assuming that it's most likely that it is harder to hit clays with a .410 rather than a 12 or 20 gauge, just because you don't as many pellets as 12 or 20 gauge shell.

But with practice you probably wont notice the difference.



Just a little interesting video about the .410 shotgun shell.

You can break clays with a .410. It's just more challenging. If you're just looking at shooting clays and are insisting on a 20 look at the Remington 870. IIRC, it's a bit less hefty than your Benelli you gave up. Either that or hit the gym and get some muscles girlie.

my first shotgun was a nova 12 28, and i barely broke clays with it cuz i couldn't swing it.. it was too heavy for me. then i tried my friend's remington 870 with knoxx specops stock 20 18, i broke many clays lol so I guess I'd rather practice with the 0.410 than hitting nearly nothing with the 12g hehe

I will also work on my arms too haha

but do u guys think swinging a saiga 12 is the same as swinging the Nova? the saiga 12 is shorter tho.. if it's a lot easier than the nova, then i will just get teh saiga 12.. hehe