QUESTION ABOUT SHOTGUN SET UP

[outersquare]

from: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/travel.php

According to State Law (and the BOF, who seem to ignore state law when it doesn't suit them), as long as it isn't loaded, it's fine. Loaded has been interpreted by courts to mean no shell in the chamber or magazine. I believe it is even legal to have them attached to the gun (i.e. sidesaddle) w/o any problems.

There is no legal requirement to lock or disassemble a long gun for transport.

yeah that's kind of interesting since shotguns are pretty quick to load up.

almost seems like a legal pseudo concealed weapon.

[hitman13]

Unless you're bringing a rifle or pistol on board MCB Camp Pendleton for an approved competition (Santa Margarita Gun Club) it MUST be registered with the appropriate authority (MP's ?) to bring it on board, and whether registered with the base or not, it MUST be locked in a case (rifles too) and the ammo, if any, must be locked in a separate case. AFAIK this applies both to civilians (like me) as well as active duty and retired Marines. These are the base rules as they have been explained to me. If in doubt, check with the base MP's in advance, but DO NOT just wing it and hope for the best. It may turn out to be a VERY bad day for you if you do.

Firearms only have to be registered if they are going to be on base for more than 72 hours....

ammo does not have to be locked....

weapon does not have to be dissasembled, just unloaded....

common snese applies, if they ask to search your vehicle or have the dogs at the gate then you might just want to declare the firearm. if they only ask you to pull over for a visitor pass then dont say ****. if you get pulled over with a shotgun, say you are going to / from the skeet range. dont go on camp pendleton to sight see, you REALLY do need to have some kind of business there to be there....

only handguns have to be locked...

firearms are prohibited in the beach areas...

[Paratus et Vigilans]

Firearms only have to be registered if they are going to be on base for more than 72 hours....

ammo does not have to be locked....

weapon does not have to be dissasembled, just unloaded....

common snese applies, if they ask to search your vehicle or have the dogs at the gate then you might just want to declare the firearm. if they only ask you to pull over for a visitor pass then dont say ****. if you get pulled over with a shotgun, say you are going to / from the skeet range. dont go on camp pendleton to sight see, you REALLY do need to have some kind of business there to be there....

only handguns have to be locked...

firearms are prohibited in the beach areas...

Well, I could be mistaken, but what I related above is what I've been told: lock up all weapons, and lock up all ammo separately from the weapons. Period. I'm only ever on board for the day for SMGC high power matches, so I've never had to deal with the registration issue other than once being asked by an MP at the gate off College and the 76 if my AR-15 service rifle had been registered with the base and being told that I couldn't bring it on base if it hadn't been. I politely asked the MP to call the main gate and double check that, since I had never faced that issue before, and after a brief call with the main gate, the MP said I was good to go.

As for going on board to sightsee, I don't know how one could get past the MP's at the gate without some stated business on the base and getting a visitor's pass, assuming one is a civilian and not active duty or retired military or a civilian contractor or employee with the appropriate ID. They have this speed-pass deal now where as you approach the guard house your electonic ID is read by sensors and your Photo ID and info come up on the screen, and if you look good to go, they waive you through. I don't get to do that! But it looks like it works well for those who have them.

To each their own, but personally, I would not go on board Camp Pendleton with an undeclared weapon. If you get stopped for some minor traffic violation by the MP's and it is discovered, it is in all likelihood a Federal felony. I don't know this for a fact, but why even risk it?

[Utha Schleigle]

My buddies in the Marines aways bring their firearms on Pendleton? I never asked if it's illegal since they're MP's and there is sport shop next to the PX that sells guns. But I know every other base like Naval Station 32nd they don't bring them.

Actually this week, I'm going to ask the head MP's of 32nd if a fully disassembled firearm is still considered a weapon to them.

Thought about weather the MP's would think a disasembled firearm is a weapon. I would say yes. If it could reassembled and fire it is a weapon.

If you say it won't fire because of missing firing-pin and they search and find the firing-pin you are hiding - expect a vacation to Levinsworth PENNsavania.

If they found some parts or chunks of rifle or weapon, they would search and ask until they found the rest of the weapon.

If you lucky you be asked to leave quietly and now.

[hitman13]

leavenworth is in kansas.

there are aplenty of ways to get on base but i will not go over those on the internet, or in person unless i knew you.

YMMV attempting to bring a weapon onto the base, but i know what was current as of a month ago. of course nothing is going to rule out someone freaking out at the gate even if you are going to carry one, legal or not.

[MudCamper]

There's a lot of transport/carry misinformation in this thread.

Except for the school zone BS, you can transport your shotgun however you like: openly, concealed, unlocked, whatever.

There is no code anywhere that requires ammunition be stored separately from your firearm.

Read this: http://www.paul.net/guns/CaliforniaOpenCarry.pdf

[Paratus et Vigilans]

Read a little closer MudCamper, part of this thread is about (or at least has become about) taking firearms onboard MCB Camp Pendleton. The USMC gets to make its own rules there.

We just aren't all sure what they are!

[Gunaria]

Another small piece of paper that couple help you out, is to get a hunting license.

[Utha Schleigle]

There's a lot of transport/carry misinformation in this thread.

Except for the school zone BS, you can transport your shotgun however you like: openly, concealed, unlocked, whatever.

There is no code anywhere that requires ammunition be stored separately from your firearm.

Read this: http://www.paul.net/guns/CaliforniaOpenCarry.pdf

COOL!!!! I am feeling better about this already. The info is good and good to know.

The hunting license is great idea - but I live in Long Beach. I will tell them -I'am hunting ALLkadeaa's and any extremists lurking around the courthouse. I heard this is a good spot and the police dept is right there in case I need back up.

Fun Times.