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  • glock 357
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1076

    identifying fixed choke on a Berretta Silver Snipe

    Anyone have a clue to what markings I should look for? I don't see any of the common/typical markings such as M, I/C etc.

    This is an older model believed to be between 1960-70's. The only thing I see that separates the barrel markings are as follows:

    Top tube marks: 1,415 18,3 17,4
    Bottom tube marks: 20,3 18,4 17,3

    The other thing I notice is the top chamber has one star while the 2nd chamber has 2 stars.
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    wjc
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    • #3
      glock 357
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      • Apr 2011
      • 1076

      THANKS A BUNCH!

      Now why would there be full on top and mod on the bottom? Shouldn't it be the other way around for skeet? I was told this was used for skeet shooting.
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        Revoman
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 2394

        If that shotgun has full on top and mod on the bottom it is made for the field, not skeet. It might be a decent trap gun though.

        Most shotguns that are field have the bottom mod because the bottom barrel is usually shot first as it is made for closer shots and the bottom barrel produces 'straight back recoil' as it obviously is on the bottom portion of the gun. This allows for better second shots as the recoil is slightly less than shooting the top barrel first.

        The top barrel is normally used as the second shot, as if the first, or closer shot is missed, the target is now further away and now requires a full choke.
        The top barrel also produces a different recoil that requires more time for acquisition of the second or following shot.

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        • #5
          glock 357
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1076

          Thanks for the help guys!

          Took it out last night. Not bad. First run was horrible I hit four clays w/ Remington load. 2nd run w/ federal [wallmart] hit 13, 3rd run w/ winchester super X hit 14 (pounded my shoulder with this load), last run winchester white box hit 11.

          Obviously got tired in the end but YES It definitely kicks. That super X @ 2960fps really worked my shoulder and cheek bone. Others were rated at 2900fps.

          A unique smell of powder which was most appealing came out of the federal. Like a scent of a woman. Amazing!

          However yes it works for trap fine can't complain it does what it needs to do.
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            bjl333
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            • Dec 2009
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            Originally posted by glock 357
            Thanks for the help guys!

            Took it out last night. Not bad. First run was horrible I hit four clays w/ Remington load. 2nd run w/ federal [wallmart] hit 13, 3rd run w/ winchester super X hit 14 (pounded my shoulder with this load), last run winchester white box hit 11.

            Obviously got tired in the end but YES It definitely kicks. That super X @ 2960fps really worked my shoulder and cheek bone. Others were rated at 2900fps.
            A unique smell of powder which was most appealing came out of the federal. Like a scent of a woman. Amazing!

            However yes it works for trap fine can't complain it does what it needs to do.
            Please double check those numbers!!! If those loads pushes that velocity your gun would most likely explode!!

            A gun with a Mod/Full choke will work fine in trap, but in skeet you're limiting yourself lotzzzz!!! It is a field gun. It is still a good gun.

            You options are to install choke tubes or just open the chokes up to skeet/skeet. Do that if you're gonna shoot skeet only though ...
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              glock 357
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              • Apr 2011
              • 1076

              I tossed the boxes yesterday All I know is that the 3 of 4 boxes had the same FPS markings on the box. The 3rd round of shooting ended up shooting noticeably harder. Same shell size, pellet size etc. Maybe it was 1200fps/1290fps.

              I probably wouldn't take it far enough to install any chokes for a discontinued beretta after factoring replacement parts should it ever fail. I will however get a recoil pad to put on it for now. Maybe an adjustable but plate to lift up that stock a bit without pushing the cheek bone to aggressively.
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                bjl333
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                • Dec 2009
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                Originally posted by glock 357
                I tossed the boxes yesterday All I know is that the 3 of 4 boxes had the same FPS markings on the box. The 3rd round of shooting ended up shooting noticeably harder. Same shell size, pellet size etc. Maybe it was 1200fps/1290fps.
                haha ... those fps are more inline with Wally World 12ga.

                Originally posted by glock 357
                I probably wouldn't take it far enough to install any chokes for a discontinued beretta after factoring replacement parts should it ever fail. I will however get a recoil pad to put on it for now. Maybe an adjustable but plate to lift up that stock a bit without pushing the cheek bone to aggressively.
                If you're local to the LA area then you can have a Colonial Chokes installed. www.americhoke.com They can do pads also.
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                • #9
                  para-frame
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 54

                  DARN! Mike Orlen is less then half the cost of the Americhoke. I just sent out a barrel to mike 3 weeks ago and got it back in 14 days door to door to door.

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                  • #10
                    bjl333
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                    • Dec 2009
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                    Originally posted by para-frame
                    DARN! Mike Orlen is less then half the cost of the Americhoke. I just sent out a barrel to mike 3 weeks ago and got it back in 14 days door to door to door.
                    Linky!?!?
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                    • #11
                      Databyter
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1100

                      Originally posted by glock 357
                      Anyone have a clue to what markings I should look for? I don't see any of the common/typical markings such as M, I/C etc.

                      This is an older model believed to be between 1960-70's. The only thing I see that separates the barrel markings are as follows:

                      Top tube marks: 1,415 18,3 17,4
                      Bottom tube marks: 20,3 18,4 17,3

                      The other thing I notice is the top chamber has one star while the 2nd chamber has 2 stars.
                      Couldn't you just measure the ID of the barrel at the tip?

                      There are charts showing the differences in diameter from cylinder all the way through to special extra full hunting chokes.

                      There's a good chart on this page from Americhoke.com

                      Shotgun choke tubes, installation in 12 20 28ga .410 bore. Screw In Choke. Standarad and thin-wall systems, Barrel porting, gunfitting, recoil pad installation, lengthening, polishing long forcing cones, chamber and head spacing work. Custom gunfitting and refinishing. Pads and sights, Bob Day, Shotgun Modifications, R&D Custom Barrel, Americhoke


                      Just scroll down a bit.

                      p.s. oops I see you had already solved the problem. Cheers!

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                      • #12
                        para-frame
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 54

                        Originally posted by bjl333
                        Linky!?!?
                        Sorry for the wait, http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=12&t=36237

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                        • #13
                          mikey357
                          Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 323

                          Originally posted by para-frame
                          DARN! Mike Orlen is less then half the cost of the Americhoke. I just sent out a barrel to mike 3 weeks ago and got it back in 14 days door to door to door.
                          How was his work? His prices are incredible....something like 35.00 without shipping for shotgunworld members. IIRC it was about 15.00 for shipping. Im also thinking of using him for screw in choke tubes. He comes highly recommended by shotgunworld.com members.

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                          • #14
                            para-frame
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 54

                            His work is Great, it looks like a factory job on my model 11. He only threads for truchokes (.795 44 TPI). I paid 70 bucks for threading, a flush choke and shipping and it took 14 days (it was on the truck both ways for 11 of those days.)

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                            • #15
                              mikey357
                              Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 323

                              Originally posted by para-frame
                              His work is Great, it looks like a factory job on my model 11. He only threads for truchokes (.795 44 TPI). I paid 70 bucks for threading, a flush choke and shipping and it took 14 days (it was on the truck both ways for 11 of those days.)
                              Thats a great price, the choke ran 20-25 dollars and shipping probably around 15.00. His labor was 30-35 for threading. Ive read that sometimes he can have it back to you within 3 days.

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