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  • Xuse2005
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 261

    Harris 3D Modular Stock

    So here's the question:

    Would the Alliance Arms Harris 3D Modular Stock be considered a telescopic stock? It appears that parts need to be removed/replaced in order for the LOP to be adjusted.

    Since my Saiga 12 already has a pistol grip, it can't have a telescopic or folding stock and wasn't sure if this fits the definition.


    Thanks!
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    crackerman
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 2441

    at first glance and per the flowchart I don't think so. It seems to be just the same as a pinned Magpul CTR or carbine stock since it takes a tool to adjust. Smarter people will be along shortly.
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    • #3
      21SF
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 3491

      Originally posted by Xuse2005
      So here's the question:

      Would the Alliance Arms Harris 3D Modular Stock be considered a telescopic stock? It appears that parts need to be removed/replaced in order for the LOP to be adjusted.

      Since my Saiga 12 already has a pistol grip, it can't have a telescopic or folding stock and wasn't sure if this fits the definition.


      Thanks!
      Since my Saiga 12 already has a
      "bullet button"
      You can have anything you want on it.

      Minus NFA, 922R, etc.
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      • #4
        Xuse2005
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 261

        Originally posted by 21SF
        "bullet button"
        You can have anything you want on it.

        Minus NFA, 922R, etc.
        My understanding is that even with a fixed mag, you still need to watch the evil feature on shotguns.
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        • #5
          djleisure
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 4734

          Originally posted by 21SF
          "bullet button"
          You can have anything you want on it.

          Minus NFA, 922R, etc.
          Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hold on there. The BB does NOT negate the fact that you can *either* have a telescoping stock *or* you can have a pistol grip (and forward VFG) *not* both (on a semi-auto, mag-fed shotgun.)

          So, with that out of the way, I'd say that stock is good to go. I can't tell from the pic, but I'm assuming that it requires some sort of tool to adjust the LOP? And not just clicking a button? I would say that is a stock with adjustable LOP (like, adding a padded spacer to the end of your stock) and NOT a collapsible or telescoping stock and would be good to go. However, that is just my interpretation and I suppose there could be some grey area there, I'm just saying that I would be comfortable with that stock.
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          • #6
            crackerman
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 2441

            Originally posted by 21SF
            "bullet button"
            You can have anything you want on it.

            Minus NFA, 922R, etc.
            Nope, nope, nope!!! You are thinking of the Rifle chart. Different rules.

            If you have a folding/collapsible stock (step 13 on flowchart) and then a pistol, thumbhole, or vertical grip (step 14 on the flow chart) you violate PC 12276.1(a) and then get to meet bubba in the clink.
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            • #7
              bjl333
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              • Dec 2009
              • 7010

              Originally posted by crackerman
              Nope, nope, nope!!! You are thinking of the Rifle chart. Different rules.

              If you have a folding/collapsible stock (step 13 on flowchart) and then a pistol, thumbhole, or vertical grip (step 14 on the flow chart) you violate PC 12276.1(a) and then get to meet bubba in the clink.
              Bubba likes young ones!!!

              Go thru this flowchart and make sure you don't meet Bubba!!!
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