Kel-tec KSG

[robcoe]

Aren't you being a bit optimistic?

What can I say, I always like to give a company the benefit of the doubt.

[stitchnicklas]

http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/subsites/inven_product.asp?dealer_id=691494&item=KSG&instock=all&manufact_combo=Kel-Tec&mod_ser_combo=None&category_combo=None&model=None&g_type=Shotgun&act_type=&finish_type=None&calib_combo=None&sight_class_combo=None&price_range=None&left_handed=&youth=&Offset_rec=0&num_rec=50&item_num=#

here is a price anticipation......

still want one

[TRICKSTER]

The potential problem is not the assault weapon laws, it's the high cap magazine laws.

CA Penal Code:
12020 (a)(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes
to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or
offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-
capacity magazine.

12020 (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity
magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity
to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to
include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so
that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

So it all depends on how "ammunition feeding device" is defined.
With the KSG, the ammunition is loaded into one port and ejected through one port. It could be argued that the two tubes that are connected, and fed through one port is a single "ammunition feeding device".

[mif_slim]

Well if that's the case then all those who own double mag holders for their AR/AK are in deep trouble!

[pontiacpratt]

So it all depends on how "ammunition feeding device" is defined.
With the KSG, the ammunition is loaded into one port and ejected through one port. It could be argued that the two tubes that are connected, and fed through one port is a single "ammunition feeding device".

Have you handled a KSG?
The two tubes have separate loading ports inside the "Buttstock" You have to toggle a switch to select which tube you want to load. No way it can be construed as a "single ammunition feeding device"

[TRICKSTER]

Well if that's the case then all those who own double mag holders for their AR/AK are in deep trouble!

No, because you have to physically remove one magazine from the gun to move the other in position to fire.
As I stated, this is a "potential problem" and even some of the "right people" here are looking at it.

[mif_slim]

No, because you have to physically remove one magazine from the gun to move the other in position to fire.
As I stated, this is a "potential problem" and even some of the "right people" here are looking at it.

Yeah, but with the KSG you still have to "physically" move the switch from side to side.

[TRICKSTER]

Yeah, but with the KSG you still have to "physically" move the switch from side to side.

But you don't have to physically remove one magazine to switch to the other. It's all part of the internal parts of the gun.

[STR8HEATED]

i read somewhere that keltec has shipped out 250 ksgs out before xmas. Next shipment will be in the middle of jan.2012 Got one preordered at tombstone tactical, saving my chips right now and hopefully they'll make it to cali soon.

[tonelar]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=514952&highlight=KSG

That's another (recent) thread about this already. Some calgunners already have theirs. Arguing about the legality of a weapon already being delivered is kinda pointless, don'tcha think?

There were threads about its legality a year ago.

[ENVYGREEN]

Tombstone tactical are good people. I was just at their house last week. I think their waiting list is in the 300's!?

[putemup]

I'll be picking one of these up!

[chuymonster]

when i first saw this it blew my mind wanted one so bad but after watching the nutnfancy vids of it.it lost its luster to me takes forever to load and mag switch was weird to get to and safety placement sucks you can press it by mistake if your running .But damn if it aint sexy as hell

[chuymonster]

gotta be semi for me to get it then its its just pure win.

[STR8HEATED]

Tombstone tactical are good people. I was just at their house last week. I think their waiting list is in the 300's!?

thats good to hear, never dealt with that company but i've heard nothing bad about them. I just hope they don't jack up the price like other stores i've seen. I remember when cali started getting saiga12s and 1 shop said $1000 when I was able to get it online for half the price. It wasn't even converted either.