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  • mtahatta
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 12

    Kel-tec KSG

    I just found out about kel-tec's KSG. So beautiful. I want one. Does anyone know if this has been banned in california yet?
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    tvfreakarms
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 2362

    It's looks really cool. I was watching shot show on youtube and the guy said that they are making one that is cali compliant.

    they should make a semi auto version. If this kel tec was semi shotty i would take this one over the saiga.
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    • #3
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      Originally posted by mtahatta
      I just found out about kel-tec's KSG. So beautiful. I want one. Does anyone know if this has been banned in california yet?
      It's not banned in CA.

      However, there is some debate on it's legality due to it's ammo capacity.
      The debate is, is the fixed tubular magazine's capacity comprised of two seperate feeding tubes (7+7+1) or is the two feeding tubes considered one unit (14+1). If it's two seperate feeding tubes, then it's CA legal. If it's one unit, then it can't be sold to non-exempt persons in CA due to it having a large capacity magazine.

      There are a few already in CA, possessed by prop masters, for use in the movie industry.


      Originally posted by tvfreakarms
      they should make a semi auto version. If this kel tec was semi shotty i would take this one over the saiga.
      If it was semi-auto, then it would be illegal in CA due to being an "assault weapon".
      I be wrong. Sorry for the bad info.
      Last edited by Quiet; 09-15-2011, 6:41 AM.
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      • #4
        Rahl
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 150

        That is a really neat looking gun. Interesting design.

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        • #5
          ke6guj
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          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by Quiet
          If it was semi-auto, then it would be illegal in CA due to being an "assault weapon".
          why would it be an AW?
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          • #6
            Garandman13
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 95

            Originally posted by Quiet
            It's not banned in CA.

            However, there is some debate on it's legality due to it's ammo capacity.
            The debate is, is the fixed tubular magazine's capacity comprised of two seperate feeding tubes (7+7+1) or is the two feeding tubes considered one unit (14+1). If it's two seperate feeding tubes, then it's CA legal. If it's one unit, then it can't be sold to non-exempt persons in CA due to it having a large capacity magazine.

            There are a few already in CA, possessed by prop masters, for use in the movie industry.



            If it was semi-auto, then it would be illegal in CA due to being an "assault weapon".
            Read the aw flowchart. If its a semi-auto shotgun fed from a tubular magazine there's not much to worry about. The only way it would be an AW is if it was banned by name or had a telescopic/folding stock and the pistol grip... Other then that the KSG looks sick!
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            • #7
              stix213
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              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              Originally posted by Quiet
              If it was semi-auto, then it would be illegal in CA due to being an "assault weapon".
              There would be no reason for it to be considered an AW in CA if semi-auto. Not sure how you came up with that.

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              • #8
                secret.asian.man
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 744

                so far as i see it, it is CA legal. 18" barrel (bullpup design) two seperate feeding tubes that hold 7 rounds each (you have to manually toggle a lever to start feeding from the other tube, or center it to be single shot for special purpose rounds.)

                Fcuk California! i want one!!!

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                • #9
                  vandal
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2862

                  Shorter OAL than a 12" SBS pump without the paperwork and $200 tax stamp.

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                  • #10
                    BigDogatPlay
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 7362

                    Far as I see it, the KSG is still vaporware..... something Kel-Tec is somewhat known for.

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                    • #11
                      hk91666
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1945

                      Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
                      Far as I see it, the KSG is still vaporware..... something Kel-Tec is somewhat known for.

                      Just like the Keltec rfb I am waiting for.Vaporware.........
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                      • #12
                        Interfan
                        Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 242

                        It's a pump action shotgun. It's not semi-auto. The pistol grip and other "evil" features are not relevant, since it's not semi-auto and does not have detachable mags (like the Saiga 12), so the AWB isn't really an issue here. The overall length meets federal regs (since pump shotguns don't trigger the CA AWB 30" restrictions), so why wouldn't it be CA legal?

                        Provided it actually exists...
                        Last edited by Interfan; 09-14-2011, 4:01 PM.
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                        • #13
                          mtahatta
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 12

                          Originally posted by Interfan
                          It's a pump action shotgun. It's not semi-auto. The pistol grip and other "evil" features are not relevant, since it's not semi-auto and does not have detachable mags (like the Saiga 12), so the AWB isn't really an issue here. The overall length meets federal regs (since pump shotguns don't trigger the CA AWB 30" restrictions), so why wouldn't it be CA legal?

                          Provided it actually exists...
                          Well, because it's california...

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                          • #14
                            robcoe
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 8685

                            Originally posted by mtahatta
                            I just found out about kel-tec's KSG. So beautiful. I want one. Does anyone know if this has been banned in california yet?
                            Keltec says it will be released end of 2011, so expect it around the beginning of 2013
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                            • #15
                              notme92069
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 856

                              Originally posted by robcoe
                              Keltec says it will be released end of 2011, so expect it around the beginning of 2013
                              Aren't you being a bit optimistic?
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