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  • Time of Flight
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 252

    Remington 1100 Problem

    My 1100 will not cycle the 2nd round in the magazine tube. It will cycle the 1st one out of the tube just fine, but the 2nd round is a no go.

    When I hand cycle it to see if I can visually see a problem, I can see that the 2nd round in the tube does not pop out slightly like the 1st one does (you know, the rim of the shell will stick out slightly so it can be picked up.)

    Please let me know what you think the problem is...Thanks.
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  • #2
    bjl333
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    • Dec 2009
    • 7010

    So what you're saying is the 3rd shot won't cycle right?

    any dents in the mag tube? Is the inside of the mag tube dirty/greasy? I'm almost willing to bet the inside of the magtube have something catching or blocking if the 3rd shot won't cycle.
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    • #3
      CC Gunsmithing
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 649

      or the follower spring is gunked up/ broken...
      http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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      • #4
        Utha Schleigle
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 593

        How old is the gun and DO YOU or DID YOU keep the mag tube loaded UP for ten years.

        With 8 shells in it runs fine - on the last two shells problems feeding.

        Check all aspects discussed in other posts all good information.

        Mag spring weak at on last of shells. You can tell by - UNLOADING THE SHOTGUN - unloading the mag tube and pressing follower with finger - if soft or not much pressure - time for a NEW spring. DO NOT release the bolt to smash your finger up as you check the follower tension. OR thare will be blood!!! Please see binding syndrome below and read signature.


        If used for any serious shootin = as in law enforcement/combat/hd mag tube must be left loaded a lot = new quality spring only - change every 6 monthes or every year.


        Me the hacksaw gunsmitdth would just remove and clean mag tube and evenly as I could pull the spring out again - try to do this evenly or you will get binding up spring symdrome {this disease runs in my family}. If you mess the spring up you have to buy a new spring.

        Do not keep mag tube loaded for long periods unless needed.
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        • #5
          BigDogatPlay
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 7362

          Originally posted by Utha Schleigle
          How old is the gun and DO YOU or DID YOU keep the mag tube loaded UP for ten years.
          How long the mag tube was kept loaded is not germane. Magazine springs are designed to be compressed and kept that way. They lose their power through the function of operation... repeated decompression of the spring is what gradually weakens mag springs over time.

          If used for any serious shootin = as in law enforcement/combat/hd mag tube must be left loaded a lot = new quality spring only - change every 6 monthes or every year.
          No. Not necessary. If shooting thousands of rounds per year through the gun, then yes. Otherwise, should be GTG.

          Me the hacksaw gunsmitdth would just remove and clean mag tube and evenly as I could pull the spring out again - try to do this evenly or you will get binding up spring symdrome {this disease runs in my family}. If you mess the spring up you have to buy a new spring.
          Removing the mag tube on an 1100 can be an issue as (IIRC) they are brazed into the receiver. Trying to bruno out the mag tube with a strap wrench could easily ruin the gun.

          If you mean disassembling the mag tube components by removing the barrel and spring retainer, then that would be the best path. Remove the spring and follower, look for kinks or a damaged spring. Clean the follower. Then clean and polish (using the aippi method) the inside of the mag tube. Also consider giving the trigger group a good spraying of gun scrubber or carb cleaner, particularly around the area of the carrier dog at the back of the carrier. This is what interacts with the shells coming out of the mag tube to cycle the gun. If the dog isn't tripped because the shell coming out doesn't have enough oooomph, then the gun will lock open or "not cycle".

          I've maintained a lot of 1100s, my own and those of others, and for whatever reason their internals just seem to get really gunky.

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          Do not keep mag tube loaded for long periods unless needed.
          Again... not correct. Not FUD, but not correct.

          If the gun is older, then a mag spring replacement might just be in order. It's a very cheap fix. But I'd be concerned, particularly with a hunting gun, with what's going on inside the mag tube and with the carrier and trigger group. Having those internals clean is going to help keep issues to a minimum.

          ETA: while the fore end and barrel are off, give the mag tube a good visual inspection. Look for dents. Any you see would need to be corrected.
          Last edited by BigDogatPlay; 09-08-2011, 9:52 AM.
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          • #6
            3GunFunShooter
            In Memoriam
            • Dec 2005
            • 2408

            Check out the interceptor latch. Sometimes it gets bent, or worn. Brownells sell a snap ring kit that has 3 different sizes to compensate for the worn welded on pin the the latch is attached to.
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            • #7
              Utha Schleigle
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 593

              Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
              How long the mag tube was kept loaded is not germane. Magazine springs are designed to be compressed and kept that way. They lose their power through the function of operation... repeated decompression of the spring is what gradually weakens mag springs over time.
              I dissagree - but OK - I think both are factors.


              No. Not necessary. If shooting thousands of rounds per year through the gun, then yes. Otherwise, should be GTG.



              Removing the mag tube on an 1100 can be an issue as (IIRC) they are brazed into the receiver. Trying to bruno out the mag tube with a strap wrench could easily ruin the gun.
              Did not say hurt the gun - tear down and CLEAN - HOPPS9 the inside mag tube.

              If you mean disassembling the mag tube components by removing the barrel and spring retainer, then that would be the best path. Remove the spring and follower, look for kinks or a damaged spring. Clean the follower. Then clean and polish (using the aippi method) the inside of the mag tube. Also consider giving the trigger group a good spraying of gun scrubber or carb cleaner, particularly around the area of the carrier dog at the back of the carrier. This is what interacts with the shells coming out of the mag tube to cycle the gun. If the dog isn't tripped because the shell coming out doesn't have enough oooomph, then the gun will lock open or "not cycle".
              Sounds fantastic. - inspect spring and mag tube gummed up maybe.

              I've maintained a lot of 1100s, my own and those of others, and for whatever reason their internals just seem to get really gunky.
              You did not say or point to this - BUT - I fully clean my shot gun after every use. I am not in favor of just wiping out the barrel and letting the action cake up in crudd gunk. vanish[

              Keeping mag tube loaded for long periods of time.
              Again... not correct. Not FUD, but not correct.
              Again - I have seen this as an issue for me. But again ok it should not be. But - given find the root problem then replace parts if needed.

              If the gun is older, then a mag spring replacement might just be in order. It's a very cheap fix. But I'd be concerned, particularly with a hunting gun, with what's going on inside the mag tube and with the carrier and trigger group. Having those internals clean is going to help keep issues to a minimum.

              ETA: while the fore end and barrel are off, give the mag tube a good visual inspection. Look for dents. Any you see would need to be corrected.
              I will affirm that the spring should not wear out as I discribed. It has been an issue on two of my shootguns. Two schools of though. I am in the other camp.

              But your advise is more realavant than mine - because of your experience with thr Rem 1100. I hope he gets his 1100 working smoothly.

              Do not harm the gun - but gunk could be the culprit.

              ReBending or Streching out the mag spring is like playing with a SLINKEY (the spring toy).
              Last edited by Utha Schleigle; 09-08-2011, 11:18 PM. Reason: why not ???
              PLEASE WEAR EYE PROTECT & PROTECTIVE GEAR IN SHOP!!!!!! You can order another part from from manufacturer, but you can't order another finger or eye from your mother & father.

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              • #8
                Time of Flight
                Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 252

                Thanks for all the help guys!

                Utha: Not trying to dog pile on you or anything, but what BigDog said about the spring is correct from what I have been told. (lol dog pile)

                Springs wear out by constant compression/decompression cycles. They have no preference on being kept stored compressed or decompressed...I am not an enginereer or anything, but I have spoken to someone who is and that is what he told me...just my .02 cents.

                I will try out all of your recommendations before I go back out in the field on Monday...(PS, a little blue bird who got into a fight with a dove some time back, told me that the suckers will really be busy that day and tuesday...If you have a chance, go bag yourself an early morning limit!)
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                • #9
                  kendog4570
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 5180

                  With funtion problems with an 1100, you are money and time ahead to simply contact Remington, and arrange sending it to them.

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