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  • Aldemar
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    • Dec 2007
    • 4707

    Vang Comp Barrel For 870

    Anyone have any experience with a before and after conversion? I'm thinking of sending the barrel of my 870 Police to Vang the porting & back boring package.

    I'm especially interested in the recoil reduction so my wife can feel more comfortable with it. She has a difficult time even using the Federal Reduced Recoil 00 buck (LE132) and 1oz slug (PB127) ammo.

    Pricey at $255.00, but I can tell her "but honey, I spent the money for you"
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    AAShooter
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    CGN Contributor
    • May 2010
    • 7188

    -just a couple of thoughts. First, talk to Hans. Not all barrels and be Vang'ed.

    Although I love my Vang shotgun, I would think you might want to be looking at a 20 gauge semi-auto (tweeked to work with the loads you intend to shoot) for your wife to shoot if the 12 gauge reduced recoil ammo is problematic for her. Of course, good technique will make a big difference.
    Last edited by AAShooter; 09-06-2011, 9:42 PM.

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    • #3
      BigDogatPlay
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 7362

      Originally posted by AAShooter
      Although I love my Vang shotgun, I would think you might want to be looking at a 20 gauge semi-auto for your wife to shoot if the reduced recoil ammo is problematic for her. Of course, good technique will make a big difference.

      +1.... good technique can make all the difference. Bad technique = no fun, no matter how much the gun has been worked.

      I've shot one Vang gun and found it to be a slightly softer shooter than my unmodified 870P. Depending on what kind of stock and recoil pad you are running, changing out the recoil pad might make a big difference as well.

      A 20 gauge semi-auto, if your wife is sensitive to recoil, with good technique and something like a Limbsaver pad is quite possibly an optimum choice. A friend of mine back east bought his wife a 20 gauge 870, changed out the recoil pad, got her some instruction and she is fine with it.
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      • #4
        1911su16b870
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        • Dec 2006
        • 7654

        He does amazing things with tight patterning 00 buck on B-27 targets.
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        • #5
          Bob Hostetter
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1291

          Using a Vang Comp modified barrel will not reduce the recoil in an 870 in any measureable way. The porting might give your a slight reduction in muzzle lift and the back boring/jug choking he uses will help to tighten the pattern up and that's about it.

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          • #6
            Dave Sauer
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 43

            Originally posted by Bob Hostetter
            Using a Vang Comp modified barrel will not reduce the recoil in an 870 in any measureable way. The porting might give your a slight reduction in muzzle lift and the back boring/jug choking he uses will help to tighten the pattern up and that's about it.
            +1. You'll have better results reducing the felt recoil (and save some $) by putting on a Knox stock. But if she doesn't enjoy shooting the gun, spend the money to get her something she does enjoy...your life will be much happier.
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            • #7
              MossbergMan
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1255

              If your shotgun is battering your wife, I'd venture a guess that the stock is too long. If the LOP is too long, the pocket collapses and you have the recoil pad on the deltoid muscle (anterior shoulder) instead in the pocket formed between the neck and shoulder on the clavical (collar bone).
              The Vang work will not tighten your Fed. Tactical Flite-Control ammunition(LE132). My experience is that it makes it worse. It will work wonders on everything else (standard velocity loads).
              A Knoxx stock (or any recoil reducing stock) treats the symptoms, not the problem. The only saving grace to the Knoxx is that it's adjustable for LOP.
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              • #8
                Aldemar
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                • Dec 2007
                • 4707

                Originally posted by MossbergMan
                If your shotgun is battering your wife, I'd venture a guess that the stock is too long. If the LOP is too long, the pocket collapses and you have the recoil pad on the deltoid muscle (anterior shoulder) instead in the pocket formed between the neck and shoulder on the clavical (collar bone).
                The Vang work will not tighten your Fed. Tactical Flite-Control ammunition(LE132). My experience is that it makes it worse. It will work wonders on everything else (standard velocity loads).
                A Knoxx stock (or any recoil reducing stock) treats the symptoms, not the problem. The only saving grace to the Knoxx is that it's adjustable for LOP.
                Good point; my arms are much longer than hers and the LOP is just fine for me. Looks like I'm just have to buy wifey her very own shotgun and modify the stock as necessary.

                Why won't it tighten up the pattern on the LE132? I normally shoot the standard velocity stuff myself, I got the LE132 hoping it would be the answer for my wife. I may just have the barrel done anyway.
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                • #9
                  Sudaev
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 75

                  I wanted to point out that I received a different barrel than the one I sent. Someone on one of the forums stated that it's difficult to port those barrels without occasionally damaging them; either that, or it's for faster turnaround. Anyway I don't mind.
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                  • #10
                    creampuff
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3730

                    My VangComp barrel reduced muzzle lift dramatically. I barely have to move my sights back onto target. But the recoil reduction from the VangComp barrel, was there, but not dramatic.

                    The Knoxx Ops stock certainly reduced recoil on slugs dramatically, but with buckshot/birdshot I sensed some decreased in recoil, but also not a dramatic decrease.

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                    • #11
                      Yodax109
                      Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 200

                      I got a brand new ported barrel from them online when they were having a sale and it helped with felt recoil a bit. I also recently picked up a mesa recoil stock and put it on but haven't shot it yet. I'm located in LA so you and your wife could meet up with me and try it out if you want before making any purchases....

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                      • #12
                        Aldemar
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                        • Dec 2007
                        • 4707

                        Originally posted by Yodax109
                        I got a brand new ported barrel from them online when they were having a sale and it helped with felt recoil a bit. I also recently picked up a mesa recoil stock and put it on but haven't shot it yet. I'm located in LA so you and your wife could meet up with me and try it out if you want before making any purchases....
                        Thanks for the offer but I think I'm just going to keep mine as is. It's set up just right for me and I don't want to mess with it at this point. I'm going to look into another 870 with a youth stock for my wife.

                        BTW, what did you pay for the barrel? It's about $250 if you send them yours.
                        AL
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                        70 has definite advantages: I was able to do all my stupid stuff before video cameras, smartphones, utube, and the internet.

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                        • #13
                          shortround1
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 993

                          The Vang Comp barrel is great with buckshot and slugs, it works just fine with the le132. As previously stated, the lessened recoil is not that much.
                          So um... moon labia or something.

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                          • #14
                            ERdept
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 4698

                            Originally posted by MossbergMan
                            If your shotgun is battering your wife, I'd venture a guess that the stock is too long. If the LOP is too long, the pocket collapses and you have the recoil pad on the deltoid muscle (anterior shoulder) instead in the pocket formed between the neck and shoulder on the clavical (collar bone).
                            The Vang work will not tighten your Fed. Tactical Flite-Control ammunition(LE132). My experience is that it makes it worse. It will work wonders on everything else (standard velocity loads).
                            A Knoxx stock (or any recoil reducing stock) treats the symptoms, not the problem. The only saving grace to the Knoxx is that it's adjustable for LOP.


                            YA, I had two Vangerized models. They shot like other shottys. Can't do much about recoil. But they patterned MUCH better.

                            Rest is the porting and butt pad or knoxx stock, makes the biggest diff, which is not much, in recoil.

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                            • #15
                              bsg
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 25954

                              Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
                              +1.... good technique can make all the difference. Bad technique = no fun, no matter how much the gun has been worked.

                              I've shot one Vang gun and found it to be a slightly softer shooter than my unmodified 870P. Depending on what kind of stock and recoil pad you are running, changing out the recoil pad might make a big difference as well.

                              A 20 gauge semi-auto, if your wife is sensitive to recoil, with good technique and something like a Limbsaver pad is quite possibly an optimum choice. A friend of mine back east bought his wife a 20 gauge 870, changed out the recoil pad, got her some instruction and she is fine with it.

                              +1; good insight.

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