New shotgun, what to get?

[kalieracer]

I want to get a second pump shot gun... I currently have Valtro Pm5 and Converted Saiga.. I would like tactical gun vs hunting shot gun. Any suggestions for a base model to mod?

[GW]

Check out the Savage/Stevens 350 Security Lots of features and a great price
Sale price @ Big 5 when I got mine was $229--about $285 otd

[aippi]

You asked for a pump shotgun to mod, which I assume you mean you want to modify?

If this is the case start with the Remington 870 HD as that is the same weapon I, Wilson Combat, Night Hawk and most other customizers start with.

There are more OEM and After Market options for the 870 then any other shotgun. If your start with model 25077 it comes with an 18.5" bead sight barrel, Remington LE tube extension, Speedfeed LE forend and Remington Synthetic stock. However, as you change to things you want you will find more for the Remington then any other shotgun.

[kalieracer]

You asked for a pump shotgun to mod, which I assume you mean you want to modify?

If this is the case start with the Remington 870 HD as that is the same weapon I, Wilson Combat, Night Hawk and most other customizers start with.

There are more OEM and After Market options for the 870 then any other shotgun. If your start with model 25077 it comes with an 18.5" bead sight barrel, Remington LE tube extension, Speedfeed LE forend and Remington Synthetic stock. However, as you change to things you want you will find more for the Remington then any other shotgun.

Is this one of the Police Magnum models or a Civilian model with dressed up parts? It is my understanding that the LE / Mil models use better parts and are assembled on a different production line.

[bjl333]

Go and shoot some sporting shotguns and you might like them!

[Sicarius]

If you are right handed, 870 series is the way to go. Lefty then a Mossberg 500/590.
Kevin

[mif_slim]

I have a M500 with PG, shoots great. I also gotta 870, shoots great too! any of those are winners.


BTW, you want mines? LOL selling the M500 off.

[kalieracer]

I think i am going to lean towards the 870... Gotta think about this .

[aippi]

Racer - it is the 870 Express HD model and we each have our things we do to them. You are mistaken as to the parts in the P as there is only one 870 and they only differ by finish and furniture and a couple small parts. All the other parts are the same in every 870 with some exception to gauge, the Super Magnum and the finish of the 870 Marine. So for except as I have listed the same parts are in the Police, Wingmaster and Express. If you have trouble excepting that go to www.remington.com, click on support, click on parts and down load the parts list. You will find for the 12ga (3") they only offer one left shell latch, one right shell latch, one locking block, on firing pin, one firing pin retractor spring, one hammer, one hammer plunger, one hammer plunger spring, one trigger, one sear, one disconect and so on and so on. That is all the proof you need to understand that all the models have the same parts.

So, most all customizers build on the Express model since we are going to apply on own finish and accessories. That $1,200 AI&P Tactical, that $1,200 Wilson Combat and that $1,900 Grizzly all start out as an 870 Express. If you want to start with a P then you are starting with a Parkerized finish so if that is what you want then that is a good place to start.

What you are going to find as you start Modifying this as you want it, the 870 is the most versitile. There are 110 barrels offered by Remington for the 870 12ga. then there are after market barrels for the 870. There are about 12 barrel offered by Mossberg for their 12ga and no after market for the Mossberg. For other after market accessories you will find them about even, however, the M-4 type stocks and Speedfeed type stocks with pistol grips are impractical for the Mossberg due to the location of the safety. Also the receiver on the Mossberg is Aluminum and can not be parkerzied should you want to refinish the weapon years down the road. So you have to send the barrel for parkerizing and the receiver for Anodizing. A few places offer both services so that is not a major issue.

[Diamondback68]

Buy the 870, for all the above reasons and also buy a ramped trap barrel with a choke system because that will feed your family if you need to. These match up well with a 18 1/2 inch rifle sighted street sweeper barrels as a paired set. Last a lifetime and it will still be going "snick-snick" and fouling the pants of burglars decades from now.

[redrex]

I think i am going to lean towards the 870... Gotta think about this .

Don't rule out the Mossberg quite so quickly. The basic 500 vs a basic 870 will net you basically the same gun. But the mossy will be about $60 cheaper.

As to there being more aftermarket parts? That is true but you need to understand. It's not that there are more types of parts just more vendors. At Brownells.com they show 270 parts for the Mossy and 310 for the 870. It's just a case of more of the same. I've yet to find a part for an 870 that I can't find the same sort of thing for my 500.

The Marines and the Army still use a variant of the Mossy 500 to this day. They seem to have found a reason to like them.

You can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossberg_500

Disclaimer: I'm not saying anything negative about the Remington except for perhaps it's price. I think it's a fine gun and I think the Moss is a great piece as well. My only real issue is that there seems to be a bit of negative attitude towards Mossberg that comes from Remington guys but I've yet to be shown a reason why to choose the 870 over the 500.

[hcbr]

like everyone said, the mossy 500 and remy 870

[kalieracer]

Looks like I am going to have to get one of each then... I can't decide.

[johnmoney]

Looks like I am going to have to get one of each then... I can't decide.

Looks like you decided on getting both. Great decision!!

[Sicarius]

Just get the 870 first. LOL.
Be aware that the base model mossberg you cannot add an extension to the magazine. You will have to replace the whole magazine tube and barrel. It is best to buy from the factory what length barrel and round count you want in the tube.
The 870 is a more flexable platform IMO... I don't even own one... I have a Mossy 590 a1.
Kevin