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  • Robidouxs
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1684

    Is an improved modified and full plus choke worth it?

    Would it be worth it to have an improved modified and full plus choke on hand? I already have a modified, improved cylinder, and full choke.
    Life is like having a map with precise directions and exact stops, you find out that your directions and stops change as you progress further down your original map.
  • #2
    Sicarius
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2008
    • 2917

    What are you shooting and what are you shooting at?
    Kevin

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    • #3
      bjl333
      C3 Contributor
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2009
      • 7010

      Originally posted by Sicarius
      What are you shooting and what are you shooting at?
      Kevin
      ^this^
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      • #4
        Robidouxs
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 1684

        Originally posted by Sicarius
        What are you shooting and what are you shooting at?
        Kevin
        -12 gauge, pump; #7.5 birdshot and 00 buckshot

        -clay pigeons for now, eventually duck, pig, deer, turkey
        Life is like having a map with precise directions and exact stops, you find out that your directions and stops change as you progress further down your original map.

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        • #5
          bjl333
          C3 Contributor
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2009
          • 7010

          Full will handle your duck & turkey.

          IC will handle your deer w/ slug, or maybe a Cylinder choke would be a little better for slugs. I think you can shoot slugs at pigs also!!

          IC would handle skeet.

          Mod or Full would handle trap.

          IC would handle most easy sporting clays course.

          I really think you have enough chokes for your needs, except a Cylinder choke for slugs maybe.
          Wanna learn to shoot SKEET? I am here to introduce all shooters to the sport of SKEET Shooting ....
          CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT >>> SoCal Skeet Clinic
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          • #6
            Thefeeder
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2007
            • 5007

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            Rather then IM I would carry a "Skeet" and "X-full"


            That will cover everything in all of hunting from quail to ducks to turkey and any clay game
            Last edited by Thefeeder; 07-14-2011, 10:49 PM.

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            • #7
              POWG
              Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 183

              Is an improved modified and full plus...

              NO. Absolutely no.

              Chokes are tools and right now at your level of experience additional chokes would merely represent gadgets and IMO a waste of money.

              An improved Modified choke is .005 tighter in constriction than a Modified and .005 looser than a Full. Not much difference and really, nothing you can do with an IM that you could not do with a full.

              Back in the day when Sporting Clays was really catching on and growing exponentially, it was almost comical in observing shooters of all levels of experience and especially those of lesser experience, especially {Class B down through E} with an extensive inventory of chokes not uncommonly 8 to 12 or more with their cordless electric screwdrivers feverishly changing chokes and still missing targets instead of observing & hitting targets.

              It is a meaningful fact that the best shooters quickly come to the realization that you cannot "buy/purchase game". The only shortcut to success is quality training and quality practice. With that said and with a solid game in place "gadgets" become tools and the best tools can give the best shooters a needed "edge" in competition ...or life situations.

              To simply illustrate a point I have 5 custom x-tra long choke tubes for my favorite gun and I have shot 90% of my targets over the years with just 3 of those, 8% with 1 and 2% with the other. Late last year I purchased a new Winchester SX3 Sporting primarily as a training gun, I really like this gun and purchased a Midas Grade Lite Modified Choke for it. I do not even carry the chokes that came with the gun and doubt the new choke will be removed from the gun ...except to clean it!

              Learn to run your gun and shoot it proficiently, i.e., hit stuff that you are shooting at.

              Invest additional funds now in quality training and ammo to use in quality training and practice.

              Never just go "shoot". Always practice with a purpose.

              This may not be "as fun" as purchasing "stuff" - but it will pay huge dividends in the short and long term.

              POWG is out.
              NSCA Certified Shotgun / NRA Certified Shotgun - Pistol

              The key to success in shooting is, and will always be "QUALITY - PRACTICED - REPETITIVE - ACTIONS"

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              • #8
                Turo
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2009
                • 5066

                With IC, Mod, and full choke, you pretty much have all that you would need for every situation. I agree with POWG, getting anything else would just buying gadgets for no reason.
                "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
                -Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  ysr_racer
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 12014

                  Unless you're hunting, I shoot IC anf Lt Mod at everything.

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                  • #10
                    sargenv
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4620

                    Personally, the advice os using full choke for duck hunting is folly since you are required (at least in the US) to use non-toxic shot.. Steel, tungsten, etc all perform better with more open chokes since they do not compress like lead used to, and keep better patterns. Steel shot in particular is known to blow the pattern if you use too tight a choke. That being said, I used Improved cylinder for everything.. even slugs and buck. There are a few people who choose to shoot a light modified.. and I've been looking to get one to try out, but for years I have used Improved for Dove, duck, sporting clays (at different ranges) and the action shooting game. Instead of changing chokes, I switch up shot size for the range and target I'm engaging.. It's really amazing how far out you can hit clays with the proper lead and a load of 7.5's.

                    If the steel is particularly hard to knock down, I usually choose #4 or #6 in a heavier 1 1/4 oz load usually at 1275 fps.. The Doves I am hunting are out at the outer fringes? 1 1/8 oz of 7.5's moving at 1250 fps.. Shooting skeet? 7/8 oz charge of 9's at 1200 fps.. My semi-auto will cycle the light stuff as well as the heavy stuff. For sporting clays I bring out 9's for the close stuff, and 7.5's loaded heavy for the distance stuff. I might toss in a box of 8's for the in between shots.. it helps that I can load what I want.

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                    • #11
                      Iskra
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 513

                      I agree with sargenv - I shoot IC on everything. But I shoot ducks more than anything else, then probably clays, dove, and pheasant. With lots of practice, you know exactly where your shot is going and IMO that's more important than the size of your pattern. Consistency is key, if you're changing choke tubes all the time, you have no consistency.

                      I usually shoot #4's at ducks on clear still days, #3's in the rain, and #2's in high wind. The larger shot carries better & hits harder (I just shoot plain steel) and since I know where its going, I don't need a huge pattern. Then its 7.5's for upland birds and 8's for clays.
                      I don't shoot because I like guns, I shoot because I hate paper.

                      There's a mistaken impression that conservatives don't like the environment. We do, we love the environment. We just call it the outdoors and we go there to kill stuff.
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                      • #12
                        Sicarius
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2917

                        For what you are going to do, you will be fine with the standard chokes. IC is going to cover almost all of what you are going to be doing including slugs.
                        Kevin

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