590A1 and slugs

[rocker]

Well I was shooting slugs the other day for the 1st time. I bought slugs because I wanted to be able to "aim it" at 50-100yrds. No effen way! That thing kicked so hard there is no way to effectivly "aim it" at something. It hit me in the face several times before I realized deer at 25yrds plus are safe LOL!! So wth...now what? I bought the shotty as a all around gun, HD shtf deer ect. The first 2 no problem.....deer? at 100yrds with slugs???? No Way. Oh well, just ranting.....what about a 410 with slugs? Think that would be any better? What about a Saiga 12 instead of the pump. Would the saiga have reduced recoil? Thanks

Oh and its the 20" barrel and I have a 12" lop stock on it.

[meaty-btz]

Learn to hold your shotgun properly? Get a shoulder pad or butt pad to reduce felt recoil?

I shoot slugs regularly out of my 18.5" Mossberg. Just this Sunday I was shooting at 100 Yards with it and getting 3" groupings standing, unsupported. You should be able to do a good bit better with the longer barrel.

[newglockster]

I think felt recoil is much more if you are trying to shoot from a bench versus standing. When you are standing, your body can kinda give with the recoil. Hunching down on a bench or rest - the felt recoil is much worse. Just my experience...

[hcbr]

I agree with meaty-btz, you'll probably want to look into a better recoil pad to reduce it. When i had my 870, the minute I added a supercell, i was able to reduce cheek slap and hold the gun alot better. Also the longer barrel helps too if you want to do long range, my buddy one time used my 30" barrel and shot something over 150+ yards so it's doable! i'd consider looking to get a spare "longer" barrel and a recoil pad!

[meaty-btz]

I think felt recoil is much more if you are trying to shoot from a bench versus standing. When you are standing, your body can kinda give with the recoil. Hunching down on a bench or rest - the felt recoil is much worse. Just my experience...

Yes, benching and prone result in significantly higher "felt" recoil. The modern non-bladed shotgun stance results in a body position that is a huge recoil absorption platform.

Most Shotguns are light enough to be held and fired accurately standing. I would not prone or bench a shotgun, the recoil would be shoulder dislocating.

[rocker]

I always shoot my shotty standing never on a bench or prone. It sounds like I may need some kind of recoil pad. Im not in to pistol grips. Any recomendations on a recoil pad? As far as I can tell my 12" lop stock does not really have anything on it. Just a little bit at the very end that covers the end of the stock.

[Ledbetter]

You could get a Past shoulder-worn pad.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=699899

Use it only when you need it and for different guns as well.

[meaty-btz]

I always shoot my shotty standing never on a bench or prone. It sounds like I may need some kind of recoil pad. Im not in to pistol grips. Any recomendations on a recoil pad? As far as I can tell my 12" lop stock does not really have anything on it. Just a little bit at the very end that covers the end of the stock.

Have you also considered that your LOP might be too short for you? With my adjustable stock if I shorten it up the recoil hurts like hell, I run it at max length. As for recoil pads, there are metric tons of them on the market. Just pop over to Cabella's or whatever your favorite internet gun store happens to be.

[paratroop]

knoxx recoil reducing stock, you can shoot all day. I have the pistol grip only stock, and i could shoot slugs, buck, whatever, to about 50 yards all day. i managed to hit a target at about 120 yards. but with an actual shoulder stock, i bet you could manage much better than that.

[ZombieTactics]

Well I was shooting slugs the other day for the 1st time. I bought slugs because I wanted to be able to "aim it" at 50-100yrds. No effen way! That thing kicked so hard there is no way to effectivly "aim it" at something. It hit me in the face several times before I realized deer at 25yrds plus are safe LOL!! So wth...now what? I bought the shotty as a all around gun, HD shtf deer ect. The first 2 no problem.....deer? at 100yrds with slugs???? No Way. Oh well, just ranting.....what about a 410 with slugs? Think that would be any better? What about a Saiga 12 instead of the pump. Would the saiga have reduced recoil? Thanks

Oh and its the 20" barrel and I have a 12" lop stock on it.

With all due respect (sincerely) ... the problem is not the shotgun. Learning to operate it correctly is not optional, but rather necessary. My 14-year-old daughter can handle my 590A1 effectively, and she isn't tall, large or muscular.

This was your first outing with slugs ... perhaps get some training and give it another go.

[BigDogatPlay]

Have to echo those who recommend to learn how to properly shoulder and fire your shotgun first. Yes, slug rounds have a pretty good amount of recoil. Three inch magnum slugs have even more. They do take some getting used to.

But I've cloverleafed multiple shots with slugs on a B-27 sillouhette at 30 yards over just a plain bead sight and an 18 inch barreled pump gun, and kept groups within five inches or so at 100 yards over rifle sights.

If you're running a 12 inch LOP, make sure you are squaring up your stance and presenting your shoulders roughly square to the target. If you are firing from a bladed stance, more like shooting a rifle, I guarantee you the stock is way too short for the task and you aren't going to have any fun at all. And definitely look into a better recoil pad that whatever is on the stock.

[Either/Or]

[meaty-btz]

Interesting thing about a shotgun and sights.. a properly shouldered shotgun in a proper stance will almost always point the shotgun at the same spot as it always does. Sighting with the sights becomes more of a fine-tune rather than something to really control where you are "aiming".


I should probably get a picture of the target, but bead sights and proper stance at 100yards == 3" groupings of 5 slugs fired relatively fast. Don't fight the gun, it should be natural and comfortable. With practice you should be able to acquire your shouldering and stance without much thought from there comes comfort and accuracy and consistency.

[rocker]

I think its the short 12" lop stock. Looking down the short sight length just doesnt cut it. I reciently added the short stock and never had a problem before. So process of elimination. I just ordered a Blackhawk Knoxx Compstock SG Stock Mossberg K05200C. Ill post again when I get it and get to shoot with it.

[BlackViper]

Not meant as disrespect in any way, but it's not the gun, it's you. Get someone to teach you how to hold it, shoulder it, and fire it.

Sure shotguns have more recoil, but I think I was 12 yo when I first moved up to a 12 ga w/ slugs - you shouldn't be having such a rough time.

Now that said, on my 590A1 I'm now running the mesa tactical adapter and enidyne buffer extension with a magpul stock. I was running a knoxx spec ops before that. Not that I cannot handle recoil, but this setup let's me shoot an all-day shotgun class and go through 250+ shells with no soreness.

You should be accurate with slugs to 100yds - that's what police shoot to qualify with their 870s.