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  • #16
    Thefeeder
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 5007

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    I'm not following your apples and oranges

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    • #17
      cmogi10
      Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 169

      I mean everything you want for Home defense in a gun is very different then you'd want in a clay breakin gun. A heavy gun with long barrel(s), different chokes, minute ammo capacity, with the purpose of breaking one, or a pair of flying clay pigeons.

      Short barrel and clinical reliability, along with ammo capacity seem to be the most important features for a home defense shotgun. That eliminates your double barrel shotguns, and everyone fears an auto loader will jam in the heat of the moment. That seems to be the biggest reason the pump gets the nod.


      It is like saying it's FUD that my 2 inch snub nosed revolver is not as good as my 6 inch revolver for hunting because it's a good carry weapon.
      Last edited by cmogi10; 06-25-2011, 7:17 AM.

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      • #18
        ysr_racer
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 12014

        Here's everything you need to know about shooting skeet.

        The lead at station 1 is 1 foot, station 2 is 2 feet, stations 3, 4 & 5 is 3 feet, 6 is back to 2 feet, 7 is back to 1 foot, and 8 & 8 is the front edge AND KEEP THE GUN MOVING..

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        • #19
          BLC
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 1340

          Cant see a pump working out to well for sporting clays.
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          • #20
            DevilDog1988
            Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 214

            sorry for the rookie question but im very new to shot guns but what exactly is a choke?
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            Haven't you noticed the resemblance?

            Chuck FTW."

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            • #21
              Shoot-it
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 5165

              Originally posted by DevilDog1988
              sorry for the rookie question but im very new to shot guns but what exactly is a choke?
              It's hard for me to explain but i will try it contolls your bb shot patterns at different ranges.
              Originally Posted by olhunter View Post
              I prefer to not mount the fat ones.
              Nice racks are much better. You can grab both sides of the rack to help stabilize while mounting.
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              • #22
                Thefeeder
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 5007

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                Here is a choke chart

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                • #23
                  POWG
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 183

                  First Time Skeet Shooting

                  As to the topic of skeet leads ...some questions to ponder as POWG is not quite in agreement.

                  On which target at these particular stations ...high house or low house?

                  What if the shooter happens to be a swing through shooter ...some are for various reasons ??

                  Measuring these leads off the gun ...or the target?

                  Just what does a "foot ...two ...or three" look like? Does it change with distance to the target?

                  What happens if the shooter does not posses the skill set to establish a lead?

                  Unfortunately, most shooters are right hand (wrong mind) ...just joking! Anyone out there understand for example that a lefty will see Low 4 with a very similar lead perceived by a righty on High 4?

                  Way too much is made of leads ...way too soon in the learning process. In the proper scenario with teachable targets, student & technique the student will get results - i.e., "hit" targets and download those sight pictures into that wonderful computer the brain. Those pictures are that particular students "leads" at that particular time and with those particular skills.

                  POWG rarely speaks of "leads" for various reasons, the primary one being that the person "calling the shot" and giving their well intentioned opinion of "where" and then how much "lead" is needed - is all too frequently wrong!

                  When working with one of the best instructor/coaches on the planet back in `94-95 ...he admonished me to always keep this reality foremost in mind when coaching. "The best of the best instructors in the world are only correct in "calling the shot" 80% of the time. Anyone out there care to opine as to what they do the for the other 20%?

                  Well ?

                  POWG is out.
                  NSCA Certified Shotgun / NRA Certified Shotgun - Pistol

                  The key to success in shooting is, and will always be "QUALITY - PRACTICED - REPETITIVE - ACTIONS"

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                  • #24
                    ysr_racer
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 12014

                    Based on the fixed distance to the target, the fixed speed of a skeet target, and 1200fps loads, the lead at station 1 is 1 foot, station 2 is 2 feet, stations 3, 4 & 5 is 3 feet, 6 is back to 2 feet, 7 is back to 1 foot, and 8 & 8 is the front edge AND KEEP THE GUN MOVING..

                    Math don't lie.

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                    • #25
                      bjl333
                      C3 Contributor
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 7010

                      Originally posted by ysr_racer
                      Math don't lie.
                      Yeap, math don't lie!! But trying getting the proper lead is where everything can go wrong! As in getting to the math the wrong way. Which is gonna form some bad habits. I'm gonna guess breaking bad habits is harder to do then learn right habits. $0.02...
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                      • #26
                        JohnFLand
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 959

                        Originally posted by BLC
                        Cant see a pump working out to well for sporting clays.
                        Actually, it's quite fun, just a bit more challenging. And by the end of one round, you'd be surprised how automatic and smooth it becomes.

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                        • #27
                          cmogi10
                          Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 169

                          I love shooting skeet with a pump, it's the best practice for hunting season.

                          That being said when you are trying to find the absolute best tool for the job the other options bring advantage.

                          If a pump is all you got don't let that stop you.

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                          • #28
                            Turo
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2009
                            • 5066

                            The only reason I don't use a pump all the time for skeet and sporting clays is because I don't have access to a 12ga pump. If I did, it would be all I used. When I graduated to a 12ga, my dad only had double barrels and semi-auto shotguns, so that's what I used. But, I still don't feel under-manned with my 20ga Winchester 1300 pump with a 21" barrel for skeet. In fact I feel that it's a little more challenging than the semi-autos. Those things make it way too easy.
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                            • #29
                              cmogi10
                              Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 169

                              The biggest advantage to a double besides the fast follow up shot is the ability to use two different chokes, giving you the best pattern for close as well as far away birds.

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                              • #30
                                steelholder
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 3328

                                practice, stay ahead of the clay and the further it gets the lower you aim. you'll get a system going
                                WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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