KSG run & gun

[FatalKitty]

The trigger issue has been fixed from what i understood, keltec posted a video on it a few weeks back (same video they talked about the KSG in FDE and OD)

yea I know, and that was what prompted me to start me pre-order. After this video... not quite sure. Chad even said it was his first shotgun ever shot - to me this seams like a good enough reason to not want a shotgun from these guys.

canceled pre-order... still interested, I just will wait until I see these issues worked out. If the safety isn't what I thought it was, well then oh well.. I'm not out $900 and I already have 4 shotguns.

[Reductio]

I just realized after watching the video a second time.. that you cannot switch the safety on unless the shotgun is racked? WTF is that ****? (PFIdude AKA Firearmspro, maybe you can confirm this for me?!)

You've never owned an AR-15, have you?

[Barabas]

You've never owned an AR-15, have you?

Or a 1911. ;D

[leelaw]

Nutnfancy is a grate gear reviewer. I think that hick up was user error tho. I'm sertianly interested in the KSG 12.

Yes, he is quite grating.

It's nice to see the KSG in action. I am looking forward to its release - I hope Kel-Tec gets some of the remaining small bugs worked out, and given their responsiveness to customer concerns so far, I'm confident the KSG will be fully operational upon release. I hope they can put out enough of them to meet demand.

[CZ9]

Whaa we have PFIdude on here? thats cool.

It woulda been nice to see them load it up to 7+7+1 but still an awesome review. And hopefully keltec gets that slight issue with the stiff pump extraction dealt with, but either way I still want one though sooo bad.

[lsellers]

I think that will come in part 3 or 4... they said they were gonna run it fully loaded to test it (they're thourough aren't they!) and also piffy (Sorry PFI, after Chad said that I don't think I can ever unhear it - I'll be calling you soon) is gonna roll in the saiga to compete/compare.

[Quickdraw Mcgraw]

PFI on here?? Sweet! Been watchin you an nutn for a while...thanks for all the video and awsome recomendations!

[FatalKitty]

Uh, yes I do own ar15s and also had to qualify with and use one as USMC.
The ar15 and 1911 are semi auto, the charge themselvs so flipping a safety on isn't as big a deal as it is on a pump action...

It should have to be:
Fire, switch saftey... oh wait, can't... wha is going on... I can't... oh rack it.. damn fte, slap it hard... ok racked. NOW safety on.

Its unsafe.

[Sicarius]

I really wish the single poing attachment was elseware... I can see it getting in the way of reloading big time.
Kevin

[Merc1138]

Uh, yes I do own ar15s and also had to qualify with and use one as USMC.
The ar15 and 1911 are semi auto, the charge themselvs so flipping a safety on isn't as big a deal as it is on a pump action...

It should have to be:
Fire, switch saftey... oh wait, can't... wha is going on... I can't... oh rack it.. damn fte, slap it hard... ok racked. NOW safety on.

Its unsafe.

I have to do the same thing with my Tikka t3. Can't put the safety on unless it's been cocked, and it certainly doesn't charge itself(considering it's a bolt action).

[Dan-0-]

There are a few bugs to be worked out of the system, but I think Keltec is working to get those bugs fixed before they are publicly released. After getting my hands on the real thing at the Shot Show I will definitely be getting one. The mobility of the bullpup design combined with the firepower it carries is just awesome.
I just want to see the Nutnfancy crew run it without the handicap of being less than fully loaded.
btw glad to see you posting on Calguns PFI dude! I love them run-n-guns.

[SparrowHanger]

Is it an issue if to engage the safety you have to chamber a round and what was with all that smacking a jambed slide?

[Barabas]

Uh, yes I do own ar15s and also had to qualify with and use one as USMC.
The ar15 and 1911 are semi auto, the charge themselvs so flipping a safety on isn't as big a deal as it is on a pump action...

It should have to be:
Fire, switch saftey... oh wait, can't... wha is going on... I can't... oh rack it.. damn fte, slap it hard... ok racked. NOW safety on.

Its unsafe.

You're kidding right? Slap a mag into an AR or a 1911 and they're ready to go? You have to rack the first round into the chamber, just like the KSG, before you can put the safety on.

It's a manual of arms issue, nothing more. Practice makes perfect. I'm more concerned about whether or not I can get one without witness holes in the mag tubes and if they'll ever offer them threaded for chokes.

[FatalKitty]

Its personal prefference... I don't think a shotgun should need a round in the chamber to safe it.
This is not an ar-15... or a pistol: its a shotgun, comparing the vastly different weapons makes no sense.

Like I said, ill stick to my rem 870s and 1300 defenders

[SparrowHanger]

You're kidding right? Slap a mag into an AR or a 1911 and they're ready to go? You have to rack the first round into the chamber, just like the KSG, before you can put the safety on.

It's a manual of arms issue, nothing more. Practice makes perfect. I'm more concerned about whether or not I can get one without witness holes in the mag tubes and if they'll ever offer them threaded for chokes.

FatalKitty isn't complaining about the first round, but the need to chamber successive rounds before you can engage the safety. That and problems with the action jamming.

Is a KSG "drop safe" as compared to an AR15 with their safties on? I don't know if I like the idea of running in rough country, as in the Nut N Fancy tests, with a round chambered if the weapon is not drop safe.