shotgun capacity question

[nlpro]

I just got a great deal on a Tristar Tactical Pump Shotgun nearly new for $120 otd . I am wondering if it would be legal to modify to fake magazine extension on it to add +2 to magazine capacity giving it 7 round instead of 5 .The shop owner told me that would be illegal to do if it was a semi auto but he was not sure if it was legal or not on a pump action.I did search but mostly found info pertaining to box mag fed siaga shotguns so any help would be greatly appreciated .

Thanks for any help

[hcbr]

I smell FUD.....

[chesterthehero]

the answer is at the top of every single page on calguns

[nlpro]

I did not see anything it the guides about imported shotguns and 922r compliance ill have to check again . i forgot to say in my original post the guy was talking about 922r for imported shotguns . He said he called the atf a year ago to ask about 922r and pump shotguns the tristar cobra in particular and the atf said it is treating the tristar cobra shotguns as semi automatic because they have a spring assisted pump action . I just want to keep myself out of trouble

[hcbr]

the answer is at the top of every single page on calguns

LMAO love the big red arrow! classic!

[shark92651]

I just got a great deal on a Tristar Tactical Pump Shotgun nearly new for $120 otd . I am wondering if it would be legal to modify to fake magazine extension on it to add +2 to magazine capacity giving it 7 round instead of 5 .The shop owner told me that would be illegal to do if it was a semi auto but he was not sure if it was legal or not on a pump action.I did search but mostly found info pertaining to box mag fed siaga shotguns so any help would be greatly appreciated .

Thanks for any help

There is a good FAQ about this topic here:

http://freedomfightertactical.com/922r-faq/

It is specifically written for the Benelli M4 shotgun so the actual part count may be different for the shotgun you are dealing with. You should probably write a letter to the ATF to ask for clarification.

[chesterthehero]

LMAO love the big red arrow! classic!

i had no idea where those charts were for the longest time... feel free to use the image as needed

[Mssr. Eleganté]

922(r) applies to shotguns of any action type and semi-auto rifles. Many people think it only applies to semi-auto shotguns and semi-auto rifles, but they are incorrect.

[Quiet]

There are no CA assault weapons laws that limits the ammo capacity of a shotgun.

But, the CA large capacity magazine laws limits the ammo capacity of shotguns.
As long as you do not manufacture a large capacity (11+ round) magazine, it is CA legal.

Federal laws limits the ammo capacity of imported shotguns.
If you increase the ammo capacity of an imported shotgun to 6+ rounds, then you will need to comply with the Fed 922r parts requirements.

Extending the ammo capacity of a pump-action shotgun from 5 rounds to 7 is legal in CA.
You can not extend the ammo capacity to greater than 10 rounds, because that would be manufacturing a large capacity magazine.

[NDFMF]

There are no CA assault weapons laws that limits the ammo capacity of a shotgun.

But, the CA large capacity magazine laws limits the ammo capacity of shotguns.
As long as you do not manufacture a large capacity (11+ round) magazine, it is CA legal.

Federal laws limits the ammo capacity of imported shotguns.
If you increase the ammo capacity of an imported shotgun to 6+ rounds, then you will need to comply with the Fed 922r parts requirements.

Extending the ammo capacity of a pump-action shotgun from 5 rounds to 7 is legal in CA.
You can not extend the ammo capacity to greater than 10 rounds, because that would be manufacturing a large capacity magazine.

Incorrect. The large capacity magazine laws do not apply to tubular magazines. You can make a tubular magazine as high capacity as you want. Good luck holding it up if it gets too long though. (TWSS?)

[ke6guj]

Incorrect. The large capacity magazine laws do not apply to tubular magazines. You can make a tubular magazine as high capacity as you want. Good luck holding it up if it gets too long though. (TWSS?)

incorrect. the large capacity magazine laws do apply to all magazines, including some tubular magazines. The only tubular magazine exempt from the law are the following:

12020(c)(25)
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

tubular magazines for pump-action, bolt-action, and semi-auto firearms are included in the ban unless they are .22 caliber. So, a pump-shotgun with a tubular magazine over 10 rounds would be a larege capacity magazine. If you installed the tube to go over 10 rounds on a shotgun, you manufactureed a large-cap mag.

[repubconserv]

incorrect. the large capacity magazine laws do apply to all magazines, including some tubular magazines. The only tubular magazine exempt from the law are the following:

12020(c)(25)
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

tubular magazines for pump-action, bolt-action, and semi-auto firearms are included in the ban unless they are .22 caliber. So, a pump-shotgun with a tubular magazine over 10 rounds would be a larege capacity magazine. If you installed the tube to go over 10 rounds on a shotgun, you manufactureed a large-cap mag.

true, but when you get into tubular shotgun magazines, the "capacity" gets murky because of the variety of shell sizes. unless there is a "standard" shell size I am unaware of (am I?) that law makers use to determine tubular shotgun capacity

[NDFMF]

Aren't lever-action and pump the same thing in the eyes of the law? A pump is a lever, it just moves in a different direction.

Plus, as was mentioned in the post above, varying shell sizes could render almost any mag tube to be a "large capacity ammunition feeding device," like these:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=162922

You could probably cram 11 of those into most shotguns that will take 7 or 8 2-3/4" shells.

[BC9696]

Legal is a relative term in CA...you can be perfectly legal with it configured one way for shooting clay pigeons and then be completely illegal in the fileld hunting, predators or varmints.

[NDFMF]

You could probably cram 11 of those into most shotguns that will take 7 or 8 2-3/4" shells.

In fact, I just did the math because I was bored:

2.75" x 7 shells = 19.25"

1.75" x 11 shells = 19.25"