Fiocchi Canned Heat shotshell legality?

[Knight_Who_Says_Ni]

Would these be legal? EPA approved, and its just a glow stick...

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/03/09/fiocchi-cyalume-chemical-tracer-shotgun-ammunition/

[biscuitbarrel]

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[Khram]

I believe shotgun shell tracer are legal.

[ZombieTactics]

Just helping:

[hcbr]

I don't see why not,

[Quiet]

I believe shotgun shell tracer are legal.

You are correct.

Penal Code 12301
(a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons:
(1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.

[mattmcg]

No issues whatsoever. This is not a tracer as tracer is defined within the law. This is a chemical tracer that does not use an incendiary mix to illuminate. Buy with confidence.

I saw someone demo these and they are very cool!

[Quiet]

No issues whatsoever. This is not a tracer as tracer is defined within the law. This is a chemical tracer that does not use an incendiary mix to illuminate. Buy with confidence.

Actually, it is a "tracer" as defined by CA law. [PC 12031(a)(1)]
But, shotgun tracers are exempt, therefore CA legal.


Penal Code 12301(a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons:
(1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.

[mattmcg]

I would agree that the exception for shotguns in the law makes it automatically exempt but I will disagree on your read of the balance of the law as written. Simply highlighting "Any projectile" and "chemical substance" does not specifically denote a rifle bullet with the same cyalume technology as illegal. Frankly, the way you are reading that, every projectile with ANY chemical substance be that copper, lead, plastic, etc would be defined as a destructive device.

The real key here is the second part "which is commonly known as a tracer or incendiary ammunition". This is where the destructive device definition falls short in regards to products illuminating in a non destructive manner.

[jtzshooters]

California will ban it for some bs reason like the endangered spotted pygmy pigeon is attracted to the glow of the round & thus flies into dangerous shooting locations.

[SDgarrick]

that's really neat. They make .22 also.

[Eat Dirt]

Actually, it is a "tracer" as defined by CA law. [PC 12031(a)(1)]
But, shotgun tracers are exempt, therefore CA legal.


Penal Code 12301(a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons:
(1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.

COOL !!!!!!!! I want some ................Now !!

[Quiet]

I would agree that the exception for shotguns in the law makes it automatically exempt but I will disagree on your read of the balance of the law as written. Simply highlighting "Any projectile" and "chemical substance" does not specifically denote a rifle bullet with the same cyalume technology as illegal. Frankly, the way you are reading that, every projectile with ANY chemical substance be that copper, lead, plastic, etc would be defined as a destructive device.

The real key here is the second part "which is commonly known as a tracer or incendiary ammunition". This is where the destructive device definition falls short in regards to products illuminating in a non destructive manner.

The way I read it is any other chemical substance that would cause the projectile to act like a tracer or incindiary round would be a destructive deivce.

But I am no lawyer and I fall back to training of "just confiscate, cite & let the D.A. decide".

[mattmcg]

But I am no lawyer and I fall back to training of "just confiscate, cite & let the D.A. decide".

While I am no D.A., it's a losing case and just adds another L to the scoresheet. It is also a waste of limited taxpayer money which is generally short as of late. While the law can be confusing, "commonly known" provides the key here as the Fiocchi ammo is a novel and uncommon product.

[Quiet]

While I am no D.A., it's a losing case and just adds another L to the scoresheet. It is also a waste of limited taxpayer money which is generally short as of late. While the law can be confusing, "commonly known" provides the key here as the Fiocchi ammo is a novel and uncommon product.

Either way, it's legal because it's shotgun ammo.