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    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 5940

    Originally posted by psssniper
    That fore-end looks to be a handfull and a half for people with average sized hands. Also with the smooth sides on that fore-end is there a chance that someones hand could slip as they racked forward and end up in front of the muzzle?? The addition of the fore-grip seemed to help. I really like the gun and will wait to see what the "street price" settles in at and any final modifications before I decide to jump.

    edit: looking the the exploded pic posted above by yf19ex, I noticed the "checkering" on the fore-end

    I love his reaction to the magnum shell in the last five seconds haha.

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    • Mesa Tactical
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2004
      • 1746

      I will be very surprised if that goes to market without some kind of flange at the front of the forend to keep the weak hand from slipping in front of the muzzle.
      Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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      • caldude
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 1253

        With something this light - I hope someone considers adding a recoil-reducing mechanism to the stock. You can see the pain in the guy's face after shooting the magnum shell (the 'ouch' didn't help either). Otherwise - looks very cool.

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        • Mesa Tactical
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2004
          • 1746

          Originally posted by caldude
          With something this light - I hope someone considers adding a recoil-reducing mechanism to the stock. You can see the pain in the guy's face after shooting the magnum shell (the 'ouch' didn't help either). Otherwise - looks very cool.
          We designed our latest stock around an existing Limbsaver pad. Kel-Tec should do the same before this goes to market so they can offer the Limbsaver as an option.
          Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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          • evidens83
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2009
            • 7839

            Originally posted by Mesa Tactical
            I will be very surprised if that goes to market without some kind of flange at the front of the forend to keep the weak hand from slipping in front of the muzzle.
            What I was thinking. I still want one though!!!
            WTS 10/22 Lasermax laser CHEAP!!!

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            • FatalKitty
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 2942

              I don't think in over 11000 shots with any of my shotguns has my hand slipped forward of the grip, but there are a lot of really dumb things you can do with a shotgun - so I suppose it's possible
              you don't rise to the occasion,
              you just fall back on your level of training.

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              • trashman
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 3823

                I love the concept, but the bullpup just looks awkward in that video.

                --Neill
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                • Mesa Tactical
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1746

                  Originally posted by FatalKitty
                  I don't think in over 11000 shots with any of my shotguns has my hand slipped forward of the grip, but there are a lot of really dumb things you can do with a shotgun - so I suppose it's possible
                  Do you have a 14" or 12" barrel on any of your shotguns?

                  Remington supplies a special forend with their MCS system that includes a flange to keep the weak hand away from the muzzle. Mossberg's solution to the same problem is a web strap on the forend.

                  In the unlikely event your hand should slip forward of the grip on a conventional shotgun, it's no big deal. But on a short barreled shotgun or with this Kel-Tec, you could lose your hand.

                  It's about simple things that mitigate risks.
                  Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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                  • psssniper
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3060

                    I don't think in over 11000 shots with any of my shotguns has my hand slipped forward of the grip, but there are a lot of really dumb things you can do with a shotgun - so I suppose it's possible
                    With a regular shotgun a slip of the hand, however rare, would still leave your hand way behind the muzzle. With the KSG a slip, again rare, could have some serious consequences.

                    Although not a perfect analogy here's an example of hand muzzle proximity danger with a Glock


                    I have an AOW and everytime I fire that thing I'm thinking "FRICKING A my hand is only inches from that fricking fireball!!"
                    "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness; I love only that which they defend.
                    victus exaro somniculosus, somnus exaro ieiunium

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                    • DaveFJ80
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2066

                      Originally posted by Crom
                      Anyone notice the muzzle flash from the magnum round is about 25 x greater than the standard round? It's a big difference.
                      I was able to capture a screen shot of it. Pretty decent muzzle flash.


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                      • Lazy eye
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 185

                        Oh that is sexy. ummm, brb

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                        • xenophobe
                          In Memoriam
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7069

                          Originally posted by leelaw
                          Kel-Tec has been very specific that the center position of the selector prevents both magazine tubes from feeding, to allow for easy emptying of the chamber. The selector does not have the same function as the Neostead, so the two-magazines-as-one theory doesn't look to hold water.
                          It's also pretty clear that Kel-Tec caters to California as much as they can and in designing this, I wouldn't doubt they specifically avoided making the selector work as the Neostead so we can buy them here. At least it wouldn't put it past me. California is a LARGE market.

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                          • FatalKitty
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2942

                            Psssniper, that's an auto glock, and getting shot in the hand was due to not being able to control the recoil.
                            Id be concerned if this shotgun was full auto like an aa12, but being a pump action... if your hand slips forward on the forend, simply don't pull the trigger! Lol

                            Keltec has already stated the reason for the mag slector was to be as ca compliant as possible.
                            If doj wants to interprent these obviously seperate mags as a single mag, then keltec simply needs to offer a plug... and wed still have a 10round shotgun at 26 inches, something previously impossible in ca
                            you don't rise to the occasion,
                            you just fall back on your level of training.

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                            • xenophobe
                              In Memoriam
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 7069

                              Originally posted by FatalKitty
                              Keltec has already stated the reason for the mag slector was to be as ca compliant as possible.
                              If doj wants to interprent these obviously seperate mags as a single mag, then keltec simply needs to offer a plug... and wed still have a 10round shotgun at 26 inches, something previously impossible in ca
                              And I'll say again... I really, really want one of these.


                              Hey look it's Chuck Norris Jr with a KSG!



                              Last edited by xenophobe; 01-11-2011, 5:14 PM.

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                              • 762.DEFENSE
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 6314

                                I'd pick one up for sure.

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