870 express extraction issue... easy fix? See Post 33

[bucktooth7]

From my prospective I think about it this way. Remington 870 Is a great gun for the money. I paid around $300 for mine. My first shotgun for shooting trap and skeet. The guys at the gun store told me buy the cheapest shells to start off . I did that and had a problem of fte. Those were Remington game loads. I was a little pissed at that point but calgunners put me on the right track to get the problem fixed. (buff the crap out of the cyl). After doing that a couple of times my 870 express runs like a champ. I can't tell you how much fun I have with it. As far as the matte finish goes, be forwarned it likes to rust, so stay on top of it, keep it oiled. Remember this is an entry level shotgun! May be the Browning and Italien guns that cost 6 times as much don't have these problems.
I like the fact that that I can hold my own, with a cheaper gun that I can afford. It may need a little tinkering and care than the great gun I would love to own, but this is what I can afford. It works for me and it will work for you.

[Wallabing]

I have concluded it is the bluing inside the chamber which is making cheap shells stick. I bought a 12ga flex hone and flex hone oil and honed the chamber until it was bare metal. No ammo has stuck in my express barrel since then.

[ilikeguns]

Hey guys... its me the OP...Just to put in my 2 cents on the matter:
I will remain neutral on the argument earlier about Remington quality. I proudly own 2 remington firearms and will buy more in the future.
That being said, that 870 has failed to extract about 5-10% of the time. BOTH cheap federal and cheap winchester ammo has failed to extract. Now I have owned a NEF Pardner pump before, and it also failed to extract winchester birdshot twice before, but not as often as this 870. I hesitate to defend my house with this gun at the moment.
BUT... I will polish the chamber with the steel wool on my 870 barrel, which happens to be my long turkey barrel. I purchased the cheap mossberg 870 barrel because it was 18 inches. I was simply asking if the new "defense barrel" will be free of the extraction issues so that I can defend the home with the gun without fear of a sticking shell.

[IrishPirate]

We have all heard of the 870 express extraction issues. To be brief, the shells stick, making the shotgun difficult to pump, forcing the user to find a way to slam the pump back to eject the shell.
I have purchased a replacement barrel for my 870 made by mossberg. Will this be an easy way to fix the issue or is there something more to it?

it will, but only if attach it to a 500 reciever and action. That's the proper way to fix an 870....turn it into a 500.

[toyg15110]

I only have the problem with Winchester AA - 12 gauge. It's a light load. Shoot Remington game and target loads with no problem. Shoot two 870s, one 2 years old, one 6 months old. They both hang up with the AA load only. I clean themk after every use as I do with all my guns.

[fnslpmark112]

Ilikeguns, I have a factory 28" barrel. I also bought a new factory 18" barrel. My gun had extraction problems with both barrels. My officemate had the same problem with his 870. Neither of us have ever used Winchester ammo in these guns.

I took both guns to Bolsa Gunsmithing in Westminster, CA. They said the chambers were too rough and too short. Mine is the newer one and the worst of the two. They recut both chambers and polished them. Both guns work fine. THEY SAID THEY GET 870s IN ALL THE TIME FOR THIS PROBLEM. About 5 a week.

I would send or take it to them. It won't cost you a dime. It is a pump shotgun for crying outloud. It should be the most reliable thing on the planet.

[FatalKitty]

Hey guys... its me the OP...Just to put in my 2 cents on the matter:
I will remain neutral on the argument earlier about Remington quality. I proudly own 2 remington firearms and will buy more in the future.
That being said, that 870 has failed to extract about 5-10% of the time. BOTH cheap federal and cheap winchester ammo has failed to extract. Now I have owned a NEF Pardner pump before, and it also failed to extract winchester birdshot twice before, but not as often as this 870. I hesitate to defend my house with this gun at the moment.
BUT... I will polish the chamber with the steel wool on my 870 barrel, which happens to be my long turkey barrel. I purchased the cheap mossberg 870 barrel because it was 18 inches. I was simply asking if the new "defense barrel" will be free of the extraction issues so that I can defend the home with the gun without fear of a sticking shell.

it's just the cheap ammo that does this - paper hull + thin, low base steel causes it to expand in the chamber = FTE

you should NOT be defending your home, or even a can of soda with this stuff... use proper rounds for defense, such as FEDERAL TACTICAL LE 00 BUCK or at the very least... #4 buck. this is quality ammo that will eject just fine and you'll be good to go

as I said before, it's not a quality issue on remington's part... it's just an oversight - the quality problem is with the ammo you're using.

[ilikeguns]

OH no no no. I wont be defending the home with cheap stuff. Ive got some federal 00 buck low recoil defense in there. Ive also got winchester law enforcement low recoil slugs on standby.

[fnslpmark112]

ilikeguns, my 870 failed with quality ammo. Even 00 buck and slugs. Take the gun in. It will not cost you anything.

If a pump gun is built right, you should be able to feed it any ammunition on the market.

[FatalKitty]

you also said you had a weapon with incorrect specs (chamber 'too short') - this is not the same issue as the coated barrels are having. your problem is entirely different and really has nothing to do with this thread.

[fnslpmark112]

No, you are assuming the so-called coated barrel is the cause. The OP will not know until he takes the gun to a gunsmith.

Besides, even if it is the so-called coated barrel, any manufacturer that would put a material in a gun that would render it defective without a completely unique and undocumented cleaning process is retarded.

My gunsmith, who knows more than you, says he sees 5 of these a week with improperly cut chambers.

[Splinter]

[QUOTE=fnslpmark112;5027418]No, you are assuming the so-called coated barrel is the cause. The OP will not know until he takes the gun to a gunsmith.

Besides, even if it is the so-called coated barrel, any manufacturer that would put a material in a gun that would render it defective without a completely unique and undocumented cleaning process is retarded.

My gunsmith, who knows more than you, says he sees 5 of these a week with improperly cut chambers.[/QUOTE]

Your gunsmith is also one of the worst gunsmiths I have ever had the displeasure of having work done by. I cant argue with the fact that they did it for free, but I wouldnt go saying he knows more then someone you dont even know. Stay away from bolsa for anything other then factory warranty work.

[FatalKitty]

No, you are assuming the so-called coated barrel is the cause. The OP will not know until he takes the gun to a gunsmith.

Besides, even if it is the so-called coated barrel, any manufacturer that would put a material in a gun that would render it defective without a completely unique and undocumented cleaning process is retarded.

My gunsmith, who knows more than you, says he sees 5 of these a week with improperly cut chambers.

I don't know that he knows more than me, but it's likely. However - it's unlikely that he knows more than JD, who is a factory remington armorer with many years of experience, building 100s of these weapons and has dealt with this very issue many times.

to the OP: take my word for it, listen to AIPPI, he actually knows what he is talking about unlike this guy who is doing nothing by spouting off **** he read on the interwebz. his "gunsmith" sounds like a joke and from the sounds of it, he's not properly servicing the weapons people are giving to him.

[fnslpmark112]

Besides, even if it is the so-called coated barrel, any manufacturer that would put a material in a gun that would render it defective without a completely unique and undocumented cleaning process is retarded.

No other statement is necessary on this subject than the above.

[rudeboy3]

^^^aw guys lets not pick on him.....He cant help he's to incompetent to clean his own gun....or is it your too retarded