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[CSACANNONEER]

Tubes don't matter.

When it comes to shotguns in California, There is no limit to the capacity of box mags, drums or belts either. Of course, you can't import new mags, drums or belts but, you can legally use any which you legally have on a legally configured gun which will accept them.

[pegasus]

-Non-LEO installs a +4 magazine tube extension to the 8 round tubular magazine on his/her pump or semi-auto shotgun = illegal due to manufacturing a large capacity magazine in CA after 01-01-2000.

So if I wanted to buy a tube extension for an 870 pump from cheaper than dirt that changed my capacity to ten it wouldn't be legal? I'm confused.

[alfred1222]

So if I wanted to buy a tube extension for an 870 pump from cheaper than dirt that changed my capacity to ten it wouldn't be legal? I'm confused.

I am 2... because have a tube extension on my 870 and everyone ive asked told me its legal

[wjc]

Here is another question; does the chamber add another round to the shell capacity? I mean for waterfowl, we can only have 2 rd mags + 1 in the chamber. What if I haves a pump action shotgun with 10 round mag + 1 round in the chamber?

If you're hunting with a pump you have to have a one-piece plug (usually wood) in the magazine to limit you to 3 shells.

[sargenv]

An 870, unless I am severely mistaken.. is not a Semi-Auto.. and thus is legal with an extended tube to be more than 10 rounds.. the above said Semi-auto..

[pegasus]

An 870, unless I am severely mistaken.. is not a Semi-Auto.. and thus is legal with an extended tube to be more than 10 rounds.. the above said Semi-auto..

So it would be ok to add to a Remington 870 28", with a 4+1 capacity to begin with, a 5 round extension, making it 10 total?

[repubconserv]

An 870, unless I am severely mistaken.. is not a Semi-Auto.. and thus is legal with an extended tube to be more than 10 rounds.. the above said Semi-auto..

NO, NYET, NEIN!!! you are severely mistaken. An extended tube bringing capacity to more than 10 manufactures a hi cap mag.... illegal. the only 2 exemptions to the hi cap mag law are (B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action
firearm.

Additionally, it is legal to have a hi-cap mag in any shotgun (even fixed mag semi auto). You just have to legally acquire that magazine... probably aint gonna happen.

So it would be ok to add to a Remington 870 28", with a 4+1 capacity to begin with, a 5 round extension, making it 10 total?

That would be legal, but a 5rd extension on a 4+1 tube mag would bring the total capacity to 9. the +1 (chambered round) does not count in magazine capacity.

[resident-shooter]

200 round belt converted S12 ftwz

[saki302]

A shotgun tube is such a gray area I doubt they'd bother. It's essentially unneforceable.

You can load more than 10 Aguila minishells into your 7 round tube RIGHT NOW.

I have a 3.5" magnum pump shotty- even if I had a 30" tube I don't think it would take 10 shells (it won't- you'd need a total tube length over 3 FEET). A 30" tube on a Benelli M1 would be over-limit with 2 3/4" shells, but not with 3" magnums which it can fire.

Good luck getting any kind of conviction with that. Never mind that the ridiculous tube lengths to get >10 rounds makes it strictly a sporting/competition gun.

-Dave

[Quiet]

A shotgun tube is such a gray area I doubt they'd bother. It's essentially unneforceable.

You can load more than 10 Aguila minishells into your 7 round tube RIGHT NOW.

I have a 3.5" magnum pump shotty- even if I had a 30" tube I don't think it would take 10 shells (it won't- you'd need a total tube length over 3 FEET). A 30" tube on a Benelli M1 would be over-limit with 2 3/4" shells, but not with 3" magnums which it can fire.

Good luck getting any kind of conviction with that. Never mind that the ridiculous tube lengths to get >10 rounds makes it strictly a sporting/competition gun.

-Dave

CA DOJ measures capacity with the same length cartridge that the manufacturer uses to determine shotgun capacity.

Meaning, if Mossberg uses 3.5" shells to measure capacity, then CA DOJ will use 3.5" shells to measure capacity and not 2.75" shells.

[repubconserv]

A shotgun tube is such a gray area I doubt they'd bother. It's essentially unneforceable.

You can load more than 10 Aguila minishells into your 7 round tube RIGHT NOW.

I have a 3.5" magnum pump shotty- even if I had a 30" tube I don't think it would take 10 shells (it won't- you'd need a total tube length over 3 FEET). A 30" tube on a Benelli M1 would be over-limit with 2 3/4" shells, but not with 3" magnums which it can fire.

Good luck getting any kind of conviction with that. Never mind that the ridiculous tube lengths to get >10 rounds makes it strictly a sporting/competition gun.

-Dave

It is really not a gray area at all. If the manufacturer says the mag holds x number of a certain size cell, that is the size shell you measure with.

Smaller/larger shells have absolutely nothing to do with this conversation, it is the size of shell your magazine is "made for".

It is like an 10 rd AR magazine made for 50 beowulf (basically a 30 rd 223 mag, but "made for 50"). You can use it with the smaller cartridge legally, but you can not make that same magazine if it will be "made for" 223.

Is it a confusing, stupid law? Yes. Is it enforceable? Unknown, but don't push your luck. Whatever your gun's magazine is measured with (say 2.75") make sure you cant put more than 10 2.75" shells in there.

[pegasus]

That would be legal, but a 5rd extension on a 4+1 tube mag would bring the total capacity to 9. the +1 (chambered round) does not count in magazine capacity.

So it's legal to get a 5 round tube extension?

[repubconserv]

So it's legal to get a 5 round tube extension?

In the situation you described, yes