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  • #46
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57128

    Originally posted by Fjold
    Benelli makes a lefty autoloader
    Are you sure?
    Randall Rausch

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    • #47
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57128

      Originally posted by trinydex
      i wish they had these for an on gun application

      On that russian video, did you notice the rubber pad on the front of the triggerguard?
      That's to help guide a tecloader.
      Randall Rausch

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      • #48
        randy
        In Memoriam
        • Nov 2006
        • 4642

        I had a tac force or choate or something or other side saddle on my shotgun once. It was filled brass down. After running 8 shells through my gun on at a hot Palm Springs match. I didn't have all my shells in the caddy anymore. If I still used a side saddle I'd run my shells brass up and roll the shotgun on my shoulder to load. There are some disadvantages to loading that way but there some advantages to loading that way too.

        Nothing is going to work for everybody my best advice is keep it simple. All this color, position stuff is going out the window if you have to do a reload diving for cover and somebody shooting at you.

        I watch people at a 3 gun match over think a shotgun stage where they mix shot and slugs. The buzzer goes off and they forget or brain fade or totally screw up.

        I am not imune to that.
        I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

        When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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        • #49
          trinydex
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 4720

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          On that russian video, did you notice the rubber pad on the front of the triggerguard?
          That's to help guide a tecloader.
          i meant the things on his belt... but yeah, i wonder if there are tecloader sidemounts

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          • #50
            NwG
            Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 321

            IMO brass down works better.. But not all that much..

            With brass down you can see what you may be loading.. Doesn't really matter to be as I run select slug from the side saddle and only keep slugs in there. I usually chamber load for select slug so loading from under is a bit safer than over the top.

            I have noticed it is much faster to go brass up when running the gun one handed. Very much so running it one handed with the support side only..
            1911.....

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            • #51
              L-2
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 1331

              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              Are you sure?

              Yes, Benelli has a web-page for left-handed models, although they appear to all be hunting guns, not HD guns.
              Last edited by L-2; 04-11-2008, 8:30 AM.
              (former) Glock and 1911 Armorer; LEO (now retired)

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              • #52
                gunrun45
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2018

                Originally posted by Technical Ted
                Third option I've heard mentioned--but it takes practice and consistency to make it instinctive.: slugs brass up, shot brass down, or vice versa.
                +1.
                Only way to go if you are carrying a mixed load.
                I do slugs up at the rear (also easier to shoot one handed and access shells due to firing hand placement) and buckshot down at the front.
                Murphy's Law - What can happen will happen at the least opportune moment

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                • #53
                  RedDawn
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 2234

                  While brass down is slightly faster to reload, it does not dissuade my paranoia the shells may dislodge while manoeuvring. As a HD weapon, I have the shells brass up on the side of my mossberg 500A (7 in the tube). Last thing I need to be doing is checking whether the shells are still on the sidesaddle.
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                  "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

                  -- Thomas Jefferson, 1764
                  *Excerpts from "On Crimes and Punishment" by Cesare Beccaria

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                  • #54
                    STAGE 2
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 5907

                    Brass up. Murphy likes to drop things no matter how well made your carrier is. As far as the slugs down shot up method, if you have some consistency as far as how you load your carrier (i.e. slugs are always the 2 closest or the 2 furthest away) and you practice (as you should anyway) then you shouldnt need to flip the shells since you will already know where the slugs are whether its noon or midnight and pitch black.
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                    • #55
                      SteveH
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 1576

                      Brass up. A fraction of a second slower but the shells will always be there after you have run the gun dry. Brass down they can walk out under recoil.

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