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  • Gigadonk
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 27

    Mag. capacity the same with shotguns?

    Is 10 rounds the legal limit on shotguns too?
    Thanks.
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    Mosin-Nagant
    Future gun = Cz52 or 1911.
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    DedEye
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2006
    • 8655

    Not for magazine tubes (I believe).
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    • #3
      gose
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3953

      Originally posted by Gigadonk
      Is 10 rounds the legal limit on shotguns too?
      Thanks.
      Yes.
      With Oden on our side.

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      • #4
        DedEye
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2006
        • 8655

        Originally posted by gose
        Yes.
        Isn't there an exception for tube fed firearms?
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        • #5
          gose
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 3953

          Originally posted by DedEye
          Isn't there an exception for tube fed firearms?
          A large capacity magazine is defined as “any ammunition feeding device with a capacity to accept more than 10 rounds but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that is permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds nor shall it include any .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device (or, effective January 1, 2002, a tubular magazine contained in a lever-action firearm).” It is important to understand that a large capacity feeding device may be detachable or fixed, and includes any tube ammunition feeding device (other than .22 caliber or, effective January 1, 2002, a tubular magazine contained in a lever-action firearm) that can accommodate more than 10 rounds. A large capacity magazine also includes linked ammunition with more than 10 rounds linked together or an ammunition belt with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.


          So yes, it should be ok for a lever-action shotgun.
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          • #6
            AJAX22
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2006
            • 14980

            thats odd. it would seem that a winchester 1300 defender would be able to hold more than 10 of the aguilla short shells.
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              guimus
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 862

              Originally posted by AJAX22
              thats odd. it would seem that a winchester 1300 defender would be able to hold more than 10 of the aguilla short shells.
              yes, but the shotgun isn't chambered in "aguilla short", it's probably designed for 2-3/4" or 3" shells.

              Many 40sw mags can hold and feed 11+ 9mm cartridges. That doesn't make them illegal.

              At the same time, I wouldn't walk up to any LEO and brag about how many short shotshells or 9mm's you can fit in your magazine.

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              • #8
                AJAX22
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2006
                • 14980

                that does make sense.. otherwise you could get into all kinds of trouble with 38 S&W cartridges feeding in a .357 magnum lever action rifle.

                Is there a specific law regarding basing the magazine capacity of the firearm off of the chamber?
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                • #9
                  SemiAutoSam
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 9130

                  Here ya go.



                  12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
                  (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                  (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
                  (B) A thumbhole stock.
                  (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
                  (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
                  (E) A flash suppressor.
                  (F) A forward pistol grip.
                  (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                  (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
                  (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                  (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
                  (B) A second handgrip.
                  (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
                  (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
                  (5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                  (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
                  (A) A folding or telescoping stock.
                  (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
                  (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
                  (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
                  (b) The Legislature finds a significant public purpose in exempting pistols that are designed expressly for use in Olympic target shooting events. Therefore, those pistols that are sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee and by USA Shooting, the national governing body for international shooting competition in the United States, and that are used for Olympic target shooting purposes at the time the act adding this subdivision is enacted, and that would otherwise fall within the definition of "assault weapon" pursuant to this section are exempt, as provided in subdivision (c).
                  (c) "Assault weapon" does not include either of the following:
                  (1) Any antique firearm.
                  (2) Any of the following pistols, because they are consistent with the significant public purpose expressed in subdivision (b):
                  MANUFACTURER MODEL CALIBER
                  BENELLI MP90 .22LR
                  BENELLI MP90 .32 S&W LONG
                  BENELLI MP95 .22LR
                  BENELLI MP95 .32 S&W LONG
                  HAMMERLI 280 .22LR
                  HAMMERLI 280 .32 S&W LONG
                  HAMMERLI SP20 .22LR
                  HAMMERLI SP20 .32 S&W LONG
                  PARDINI GPO .22 SHORT
                  PARDINI GP-SCHUMANN .22 SHORT
                  PARDINI HP .32 S&W LONG
                  PARDINI MP .32 S&W LONG
                  PARDINI SP .22LR
                  PARDINI SPE .22LR
                  WALTHER GSP .22LR
                  WALTHER GSP .32 S&W LONG
                  WALTHER OSP .22 SHORT
                  WALTHER OSP-2000 .22 SHORT

                  (3) The Department of Justice shall create a program that is consistent with the purposes stated in subdivision (b) to exempt new models of competitive pistols that would otherwise fall within the definition of "assault weapon" pursuant to this section from being classified as an assault weapon. The exempt competitive pistols may be based on recommendations by USA Shooting consistent with the regulations contained in the USA Shooting Official Rules or may be based on the recommendation or rules of any other organization that the department deems relevant.
                  (d) The following definitions shall apply under this section:
                  (1) "Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
                  (2) "Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
                  (3) "Antique firearm" means any firearm manufactured prior to January 1, 1899.
                  (e) This section shall become operative January 1, 2000.

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                    AJAX22
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2006
                    • 14980

                    Originally posted by KrizB
                    A shame, otherwise would need help finding a mag extension.

                    http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...805&hasJS=true
                    That's actually a very efficient shotgun silencer. which the BATFE has ruled is not technically a silencer.

                    It allows the pressure to equalize significantly before escaping.
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                    • #12
                      maxicon
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4661

                      Originally posted by AJAX22
                      thats odd. it would seem that a winchester 1300 defender would be able to hold more than 10 of the aguilla short shells.
                      It can hold 12 shells. This is a grey area, legally, and I never put more than 10 in my 1300 when I'm testing the Aguilas.

                      I was going to write CADOJ and ask them about this and about loading 9mm ammo into a CZ75 40 cal mag (which will hold 13 rounds of 9mm), and just didn't get around to it...

                      I thought someone else here was going to, but I never saw anything about it.
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