Knoxx Spec Ops Stock & Surefire Forend

[joel1316]

I'm now finally considering the Knox Spec Ops Stock for my Remington 870. I've read on their site and other sources that having a Surefire forend is a combination for pain? Basically, when the shotgun is fired, the rearward motion can cause the weak hand on the forend to slip forward and be jammed against the flashlight.... I've read that simply holding the forend 1" further back will fix the problem, but what if say my wife shoots the shotgun and doesn't know or think about the flashlight fires the shotgun, she'll probably drop it after the shot! Has anyone found this to be a real problem? Any remedies?

[mike100]

you could buy both and then keep the one that you find most useful..or get another SG and use the light on the house gun and endure a little bit more recoil.

I had a compstock and you can get pinched and slapped around some by the movement if you don't keep all your parts in the right place.

[joel1316]

I have my heart set on the Surefire forend, so if anything goes on this project, it will be the Knoxx.... But, I'm hoping someone has a simple remedy or work around so that I can have this combo.

[cseabass]

knoxx has a new forearm comming out from what i hear, you may want to hold off and see what it is.


i dont know if its got a light or not though.

[joel1316]

Any word or info about the Knoxx forend? I did find one site that mentions that it will have flashlight.

[BossHog]

I have this setup and holding the forend 1" rearward, as suggested, does prevent jamming your hand against the light. However, when it happens, it doesn't hurt much (to me, anyway).

[joel1316]

I fired off a email to Knoxx and they answered within a couple of hours! WOW! Great Communications. They said that they do have a couple of forends scheduled to come out in 2008. One will be a rail version and the other sounds like a "Surefire type" forend. Supposedly will aid in recoil absorption too!

Boss - if my wife (she is not too girly-girly, LOL), who has never shot a shotgun before. In your opinion, do you think she would hunch over and cry after jamming her finger? LOL... This is my biggest concern.

[BossHog]

Boss - if my wife (she is not too girly-girly, LOL), who has never shot a shotgun before. In your opinion, do you think she would hunch over and cry after jamming her finger? LOL... This is my biggest concern.

Joel,

Hard to say as everyone has a different threshold for pain. I suggest having her shoot it with the Knoxx SpecOps installed but with the stock forend first. If she's OK with that setup, then let her shoot it with the Surefire forend installed during the next range session. Good luck.

[John Browning]

I have this set up, and it is definely not user friendly to the knuckles. I love my Knoxx, it drops the recoil to nill, but you need to make sure and have the surefire held about 1" back. You won't break any fingers, but you also won't be too happy.

Just learn to hold it correctly and the problem disappears.

[joel1316]

I could practice to hold the forend at the right location, but since I'm building the 870 for HD, I need to build it so that its friendly to my wife also. The Knoxx is great and would be a plus if my wife needed to shoot it. I also want the Surefire also as I've been told that shooting in the dark is like driving with no headlights, LOL. Thanks for the info guys.

I read in another forum, where a guy screwed down a nylon(?) loop onto the forend to assure proper grip location. Similar to this Mossy:

[SoCalXD]

Knox + Surefire = Great Combo

I have those two items on my Mossberg M590A1 and I haven't noticed any "forearm slap" as you are discussing. Of course, my shotgun is a 11lb pig when fully loaded including 6rds in the side saddle so it has almost no recoil at all. I shoot it quit a bit in 3-gun and my hand seems to stay put on the forearm during recoil. My gal is too small to handle my 590 shotgun so I have no experence to share with you on that issue.

[ben sprite]

I have those two items on my Mossberg M590A1....

Hey there SoCalXD,

Awesome 590 you have there...exactly what im planning to do with mine.
Quick question though: did you have to shave off your bayonet lug in order for the surefire to clear it? or were you one of the lucky few who were able to get a hold of the surefire 623A1 model (which, from what a surefire rep told me, has been discontinued).
If you did grind the lug off, did you use a dremel?

thanks in advance!

[mcubed4130]

I've read that simply holding the forend 1" further back will fix the problem, but what if say my wife shoots the shotgun and doesn't know or think about the flashlight fires the shotgun, she'll probably drop it after the shot! Has anyone found this to be a real problem? Any remedies?

Joel,

Here is how I fixed the problem of my wife possibly shooting the shotgun and hurting herself.

I went through a lot of thought to get my Mossberg 500 - into maximum wife and teenager safe configuration. Which in my case was a higher priority than which weapon light..

I started with the Knoxx SpecOps. Then added the optional Limbsaver for SpecOps. Then a rubbergrip for better grip. Hadn't made a decision on a light when...

I took her down the to range, to see how she liked the gun so far...

We got as far as the gun rental case, she sees all the handguns, talks to the guys there and rents a couple of handguns for the day. At the end of the day, she decides:

1. She wants something "small", she doesn't like my "big gun" (she never even tried it).

2. She wants it loaded and ready to fire.

3. Since we have small children + teenager, she wants the handgun in a gunsafe next to her side of the bed. (gunvault w/biometric lock)

So there ya go... My problem was solved as my wife will never have the problem of the forearm biting her.

-M3

[joel1316]

Thanks
I've put aside the Knoxx stock idea for the time being. My shotgun project turned from HD to just "pimping it out", LOL.

[rassd71]

I want to thank you for posting this, it's something I hadn't even thought about. So now I'm going to wait and see what Knoxx comes out with for their foregrips. I'm definitely getting the spec ops stock as I enjoy shooting and anything that can make a day more enjoyable will make that firearm more likely to be fired.