Shot gun barrel cutting?

[jdberger]

I asked my supervisor at work...I'm security for one of Nor Cal's major office complexes. He told me this same thing, so I'm tending to believe it. I'm planning to buy me a mossberg and saw that baby off. If I just use a retractable stock, can I get around whatever requirements they have? I'll just want to be sure to stay out the crosshairs of any PD and security forces.

Dude.

This is the second time you've asked this question. I'm trying to be nice - but I'm losing my patience because you're not doing your part to educate yourself.

Saw the barrel off your shotgun at your peril.

Felony.

10 years in a FEDERAL prison. [That means this ( o ) ends up like this ( O )]

It's also a $10,000 fine.

Here's the straight dope about your supervisor.... He's a f'in retard. Get a new job - preferrably one where management isn't trying to get you sent to prison.

Look UP ^^

On the blue bar above, there's a tab called CA Shotgun AW ID Flowchart (which I've also conveniently linked). Read it. Study it. It will keep you out of prison.

And seriously, slap your supervisor. He's a dumbass.

[MossbergMan]

Ask Randy Weaver about sawing shotgun barrels of a little short of 18". That cost him more than $10,000. It cost him his wife and son.

Besides, you don't just take a hacksaw and hack of a hunk of barrel and expect the thing to shoot anywheres close to where you point it. It is an art to reduce barrel length. But by the posts on this thread gents, common sense and legal advice is falling on deaf ears. They seem to be wannabe Billy Bad-*****e$ or wannabe gunsmiths, I can't tell, but some are just not getting it. 26" OAL, 18" barrel length period or risk going to jail and making the rest of us law abiding gun owners look bad.

Please someone dump some chorine in the gene pool, quick.

[Baron]

Ask Randy Weaver about sawing shotgun barrels of a little short of 18". That cost him more than $10,000. It cost him his wife and son.

I was gonna say the same thing... But don't forget the dog too...

[double_action]

WTF! There is so much fail in this thread.

[Z ME FLY]

WTF! There is so much fail in this thread.

so much it hurts....

Basically you have to have a min of 18 inches on your shotgun barrel. I leave 18.25 or 18.5 on there to be safe.

[Taurus94538]

OK, aside from the legal issues, why do you want to saw off a Mossberg or Remington shotgun? What will you do with the pump fore end and the magazine tube? A double barrel coach gun I can understand, but a pump action??????

[Rob454]

OK, aside from the legal issues, why do you want to saw off a Mossberg or Remington shotgun? What will you do with the pump fore end and the magazine tube? A double barrel coach gun I can understand, but a pump action??????

Taurus thats what I was asking the OP. How do you plan on shortening the mag tube without having to shorten and re weld or re machine one end or the other to shorten it and then in turn shorten the barrel. You are limited in the amount you can shorten the shotgun by the mag tube so UNLESS you can purchase a shorter mag tube or shorten the existing one you have the barrel is gonna stop where the mag tube ends at the front of the gun. But hey do what you want and hopefully you enjoy hairy violent men rubbing up against you in your bunk/ Hold on to my pocket is gonna have a whole new meaning for you

[SanPedroShooter]

I asked my supervisor at work...I'm security for one of Nor Cal's major office complexes. He told me this same thing, so I'm tending to believe it. I'm planning to buy me a mossberg and saw that baby off. If I just use a retractable stock, can I get around whatever requirements they have? I'll just want to be sure to stay out the crosshairs of any PD and security forces.

I think this guy is pulling our collective chain. This is a joke post, note the "I work security for an office complex." Have you guys seen the ""gecko45" post floating around?

[Z ME FLY]

Taurus thats what I was asking the OP. How do you plan on shortening the mag tube without having to shorten and re weld or re machine one end or the other to shorten it and then in turn shorten the barrel. You are limited in the amount you can shorten the shotgun by the mag tube so UNLESS you can purchase a shorter mag tube or shorten the existing one you have the barrel is gonna stop where the mag tube ends at the front of the gun. But hey do what you want and hopefully you enjoy hairy violent men rubbing up against you in your bunk/ Hold on to my pocket is gonna have a whole new meaning for you

I personally think for a pump, 20" is the min because it allows you to have 7+1 or is it 8+1? The main purpose of a pump for me would to have a good amount of shells while having a reasonable barrel length. 20" for me does that. If it is a single shot or a sxs by all means cut that bad boy down because I did that to mine. For an O//U I wouldn't cut down.

[Btown]

I think this guy is pulling our collective chain. This is a joke post, note the "I work security for an office complex." Have you guys seen the ""gecko45" post floating around?

Dude, I'm not trying to cause a problem for anybody. As I said, I know next to nothing about firearms - that's why I'm here. Will keep mouth shut going forward.

[Btown]

Dude.

This is the second time you've asked this question. I'm trying to be nice - but I'm losing my patience because you're not doing your part to educate yourself.

Saw the barrel off your shotgun at your peril.

Felony.

10 years in a FEDERAL prison. [That means this ( o ) ends up like this ( O )]

It's also a $10,000 fine.

Here's the straight dope about your supervisor.... He's a f'in retard. Get a new job - preferrably one where management isn't trying to get you sent to prison.

Look UP ^^

On the blue bar above, there's a tab called CA Shotgun AW ID Flowchart (which I've also conveniently linked). Read it. Study it. It will keep you out of prison.

And seriously, slap your supervisor. He's a dumbass.

Thanks man. I'm getting tons of good info off this site. Not trying to make you mad JD...promise. I'll be more respectful of you in future!! My question is for people who don't member up w/calguns. Say you buy all your stuff online - a helluva lotta people do these days. How does your typical schmo have any idea what's legal/what's not????

[Rob454]

Dude, I'm not trying to cause a problem for anybody. As I said, I know next to nothing about firearms - that's why I'm here. Will keep mouth shut going forward.

nobody is saying to sit there and shut up. its just prople getting ticked because youre asking the same thing over and over when its already been posted by a few members. To tell you the truth I would get a 18 1/2 or 20 inch barrelshotgun. i have a older mossberg home defender 20 inch barrel with 8 shot capacity and it is my go to shotgun in a HD scenario.
Just remember to check on here before you do any mods to the shotgun. Seriously though you don't want jail time for something silly like that.

[bandook]

OAL for shotguns is 26". Make sure that you measure the barrel correctly before you cut it. Do not include the chamber in your 18" measurement, it's 18" from the mouth of a shell that's inserted in the chamber to the end of the barrel.

it's 18 from the bolt face. drop a dowel in a empty gun and measure off 18. make it 18.50 to be safe. 26 inches overall. and thats from a strait line down the length of the top of the barrel going back, not any diagonal

Or, if you have a 26", you can just lop off the last 7.5 inches. (26 - 7.5 = 18.5)

[MossbergMan]

There are also sites available through the CA Attorney General's office regarding firearms laws. Can you type G O O G L E and search? For crying out loud, don't rely on other peoples word for it, if in doubt, look it up yourselves. I doesn't take a Harvard Law grad to figure that out.

And btown, I'm with jd on this one....slap your supervisor, with a penal code book...Dangerous Weapons section.

[jdberger]

Thanks man. I'm getting tons of good info off this site. Not trying to make you mad JD...promise. I'll be more respectful of you in future!! My question is for people who don't member up w/calguns. Say you buy all your stuff online - a helluva lotta people do these days. How does your typical schmo have any idea what's legal/what's not????

Talk less.

Read more.

Ask questions.

Don't answer questions unless you're positive you have the correct answer.

Flip your supervisor a quarter. Have him buy a clue.