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  • #16
    Saym14
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2009
    • 7892

    there was a real life story where a guy shot his wife point blank in the face with bird shot. she lived. had many many plastic surguries. but lived. not very impressive as a HD round to me.

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    • #17
      nitrofc
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 6654

      00 buck....and practice with it.

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      • #18
        ddcorral2622
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 525

        2 non-lethal bean bags, then 00 buck. they way i see it is he has 2 chances to stop, if he doesnt then i have no choice but to use 00 buck

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        • #19
          TZL
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 3197

          i have my HD boomstick loaded with alternating buck and low recoil slugs....

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          • #20
            damndave
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2008
            • 10858

            I have Fiocchi Low Recoil 00 Buck

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            • #21
              Durasteel
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 158

              Originally posted by Saym14
              there was a real life story where a guy shot his wife point blank in the face with bird shot. she lived. had many many plastic surguries. but lived. not very impressive as a HD round to me.
              Yeah, but I bet she stopped fighting!

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              • #22
                AndrewMendez
                C3 Leader
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2009
                • 6777

                I was on a 911 call with the Fire department, where a guy had been shot 2 maybe even 3 times with birdload. The first shot was within 8 Feet, if I remember correctly, then the second from about 20. The guy hoped over a wall, and the owner shot again, unsure if he hit him. The LEO's caught up with him about 3 hrs later, he was sitting in his girlfriends living room, plucking out the bb's.
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                • #23
                  ilikeguns
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 782

                  its been said, but 00 buck or slugs...period.

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                  • #24
                    RaymondMillbrae
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2659

                    Can someone please tell me the benefit (or purpose) of alternating slugs with buck shot in a HD shotgun magazine well?

                    At room distances (7-yards), they are both still staying within a 1 1/2" inch group.

                    Why mix and match? Please expound on this.

                    Anyone?

                    In Christ: Raymond
                    Some of my tutorials:

                    RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                    HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                    SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                    INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                    HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                    HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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                    • #25
                      evidens83
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 7839

                      Originally posted by AlliedArmory
                      I have Fiocchi Low Recoil 00 Buck

                      Same here. That or the WM 00 value packs
                      WTS 10/22 Lasermax laser CHEAP!!!

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                      • #26
                        mif_slim
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 10089

                        State and Federal studies shows that BG who commits crimes while on drugs or something that pumps them up is less then 1%, so I wouldnt be to worried about a guy on drugs, but adrenaline thats another story.

                        OO Buck shot is good, but I'd go with #4 buck or reduced 00buck (which I load). Slugs would not be necessary for my home and if I have to use slugs...it'll be outside and that, Im in for a fight at court for sure. Why am I shooting a guy at 50 yards, outside? Yeah, I've lost 50% of the case already.

                        Its important to know whats behind you, but when your adrenaline pumps and things are happening not in seconds but nano-seconds, the last thing you'll think about is that $10,000 china cabinet behind your attacker...choose the ammo that if right for your home. Thats the most important thing.
                        Originally posted by Gottmituns
                        It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                        • #27
                          MossbergMan
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1255

                          Raymond, There is no good reason to "candy cane" or alternate loads within your magazine, period.
                          Same goes for less than lethal munitions (LLM) in deadly weapons, if you have time to "give someone a chance" your circumstances were not life threatening, thus use of a firearm (DEADLY force) was not warranted. If you bean bag some Adam Henry that breaks into your car and he flees, you'll feel pretty good until the Detectives knock on your door because that guy died as a result of the unintentional beanie hit to his head a week later.
                          LLM are never deployed in deadly force situations. LLM are reserved for situations that need to be resolved short of deadly force without risking personal injury to responding officers to affect an arrest. In essence it's a long range stun gun and who in their right mind is going to use a stun gun against a deadly threat? And if it's not a deadly threat, why are you using a gun?
                          Larry Renner
                          Plus (+) P Proficiency LLC
                          NRA and CA. P.O.S.T certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Tactical Instructor.
                          You never rise to the occassion, you only sink to your lowest level of training" Unknown.

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                          • #28
                            ThrottleAbuse
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 46

                            Forgive my ignorance, but why the low recoil rounds?

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                            • #29
                              G60
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3989

                              easier recoil to manage, with negligible difference in wounding capabilities.
                              "Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment." - Dr. Huey P. Newton

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                              • #30
                                RaymondMillbrae
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 2659

                                Thanks, MOSSBERGMAN,

                                that is exactly what I am saying!

                                1) Alternating slugs with buck in a magazine well serves no purpose.

                                2) If you shoot someone, you need to SHOOT TO KILL BECAUSE YOUR LIFE WAS ENDANGERED. (Not because you were scared).

                                3) Personally, I am a firm believer in low-recoil slugs for home defense...if the situation dictated it. It would naturally be 00-Buck first (which is what I have in the tube), but I have 5 slugs at the ready in case it should be needed.

                                4) The pistol holds me until I can get to my shotgun. The shotgun (behind my office door, which is our safe room) holds me until I have the few seconds (and the peace of mind) to grab the carbine from the office safe. If the carbine cannot be gotten, the shotgun will do, and may possibly pull double-duty - hence the few slugs on hand if needed.

                                ThrottleAbuse,

                                low recoil rounds are great on your shoulders to practice with. (Practice with what you have). They also penetrate a bit less, which doesn't really matter in a home (a few walls will still be penetrated), but may save a neighbor from harm. And they - MOST IMPORTANTLY - control muzzle flip. This in turn, effects how fast you can re-acquire your sights on the target again for rapid follow-up shots.

                                I would still like to hear the reasoning behind multiple round-loaders. (Candy-caners, huh)?

                                In Christ: Raymond
                                Last edited by RaymondMillbrae; 01-28-2010, 4:53 PM.
                                Some of my tutorials:

                                RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                                HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                                SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                                INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                                HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                                HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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