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  • aermotor
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2009
    • 2566

    26" = Minimum Overall Length?

    Is that correct for CA? So you can't just have a pistol grip in place of an A2 style stock? I have an 18" Remington 870 and was wondering if I can use the Hogue Tamer grip with it... thanks.

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    aermotor
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Apr 2009
    • 2566

    Ack! I stand corrected, it looks like just the barrel and recierver of an 870 is more than 26"

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    • #3
      Terminal Velocity
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 23

      Minimum overall length for long guns is 26" and the minimum barrel length is 18". Hogue Tamer grip is perfectly legal. I'm not sure what the length comes to with an 18" barrel.
      "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
      -George Orwell

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      • #4
        Cokebottle
        Señor Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Originally posted by Terminal Velocity
        Minimum overall length for long guns is 26" and the minimum barrel length is 18". Hogue Tamer grip is perfectly legal. I'm not sure what the length comes to with an 18" barrel.
        Shotguns only.
        BATF is 26" for all long guns, but California requires 30" OAL on a centerfire rifle or it's an SBR.
        - Rich

        Originally posted by dantodd
        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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        • #5
          lorax3
          Super Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2009
          • 4633

          Originally posted by Cokebottle
          California requires 30" OAL on a centerfire rifle or it's an SBR.
          It would not be an SBR, it would be an Assualt Weapon.

          The 30" requiremnt is in 12276.1, not 12020.
          You think you know, but you have no idea.

          The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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          • #6
            mydogsmonkey
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 4166

            also i believe that 26" rule is only on semi auto centerfire rifles

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            • #7
              ke6guj
              Moderator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Nov 2003
              • 23725

              Originally posted by Cokebottle
              Shotguns only.
              BATF is 26" for all long guns, but California requires 30" OAL on a centerfire rifle or it's an SBR.
              Incorrect.

              Both CA and BATF have the 26" rule for rifles and shotguns, any less and it is considered an SBR or SBS.

              CA has a secondary law regardings semi-automatic centerfire rifles. They must be 30" long, les it be considered an AW. Centerfire rifles that are not semi-automatic, and all rimfire rifles only have to comply with the SBR regs.
              Jack



              Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

              No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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              • #8
                Cokebottle
                Señor Member
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Oct 2009
                • 32373

                Originally posted by mydogsmonkey
                also i believe that 26" rule is only on semi auto centerfire rifles
                Ya... I did specify centerfire, should have specified S/A.
                - Rich

                Originally posted by dantodd
                A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                • #9
                  Hayashi Killian
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 617

                  As I've stated before...it's *really* hard (if not impossible) to get a SBS accidentally as long as you follow barrel length requirements. My Mossberg 500A, from barrel end to where stock meets receiver, is just over 28" (and I have a 20" barrel, so it's just over 26" if I had an 18" barrel). That's not including a pistol grip.
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                  • #10
                    CalNRA
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 8686

                    yep, I'm certain all reputable shotgun makers are painfully aware of federal laws, as such they design their guns to be absolutely legal with 18 inch barrels even with pistol grips.
                    Originally posted by cvigue
                    This is not rocket surgery.

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                    • #11
                      an actual gun
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 5423

                      The Mossberg 500 style receivers are right at 8 inches long. Even with no stock whatever, and an 18 inch barrel, you are still legal. Most shotguns have stocks and most have at least an 18.5 inch barrel. There is literally no way to break the law unless you cut your barrel or in some bizarro world are sold a military/LEO super shorty barrel.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        O/U and SxS shotgun receivers are usually shorter than a pump-action receiver and with them, you do have to be carefull that you have enough gun behind an 18" barrel to keep it above 26".
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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